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i believe in them more than anyone will know they are real and the try to comunicate all the time you just have to know where to look.

When I was younger I used to work for a historical society. I would go in with a team of people and we would clean houses, mansions, and other complexes that were pretty old. Some dated back to the 1800’s. I’m a pretty staunch skeptic, when things would happen and spook my team it was pretty easy to explain. Quite a lot of it was always just the old house reacting to the cold or the heat, or the old duct systems, uneven flooring, drafty chimney flus, etc. However, every once in a while, we would get stuff that was downright weird and unexplainable.

I’m not sure about intelligent entities, but I think there is some supernatural/paranormal stuff that happens out there.

As for me, I’m not supernatural but I do have something of a 'sixth sense' type thing. It comes more from being raised by an MP than anything else though. I have a talent for spotting lies. It is easier in person or over the phone, but I have been known to catch people out over e-mail or chat too.

I believe that angels and demons exist--heck, the novel I'm currently writing is all about angels and demons and their involvement in mortal affairs. I've also had some strange, unexplained things happen in the past that further cement the idea in my head. One example: I was walking out to my car, pitch black, no one is around, and suddenly a voice told me to hurry up, get in my car, and lock the doors, scant seconds before a taxi pulls into the parking lot and parks right next to me. The driver got out and knocked on my window--already freaked out, I peeled out of there in a hurry. Never understood why the taxi driver was there of all places.

Personally, I don't ascribe to ghosts (as humans being stuck on earth without a physical body), but the Bible talks about angels and demons and that the demons often use a lot of tricks to deceive people in to seeing or hearing what they want them to. I also understand that this can be a touchy/sensitive topic to those who believe otherwise, and wanted to clarify that this is my take on it. I'm curious about the subject though, and loved reading the comments so far.

I don't have very strong feelings as to "yes" or "no," but I do believe at least the vast majority have alternate explanations. I'll go ahead and say that my mom's told me about a lot of strange things though. Two things I can remember offhand are:

1. She says she lived in a haunted house at one point as a child, and that her sister was terrified of the ghost, even though it just just a little boy.

2. There's an island she refuses to ever visit again because the whole thing made her very uneasy and walking across the beach gave her the impression of walking across bones.
I got that from a woman at a grocery store once, but I'm apparently easy to miss in general.

I would find it hard to believe if something like this did not exist in our world. I believe that there is just things in the world we cannot perceive or understand. It is almost similar to the universe around us and its many secrets we have not uncovered. Sure, there may be opinions out there saying these things exist or do not exist. However, in reality, all we can do is rely on the way our mind works. After all, it is not like we can truly disprove the possibilities of these existing or not existing.

Now, I can not exactly say what kinds of things may exist, if they do. However, I think there are a number of strange occurrences that happen in everyones life and sometimes these just do not make sense; Even if you were to take the time to analyze it from a completely logical or technical point of view.

I guess in the end, I could say I may believe in things that cannot be seen. What these things are, that would be a different question for another day.

That's cool. ^^

I have something known as the Human Condition.

My body is that of an endurance predator, able to slowly trail prey beyond the point of exhaustion, while barely losing breath. I can subconsciously pick up on environmental hints and clues that something can go wrong, and it can change my attitude. My body is perfectly capable of surviving a fall from a commercial airliner. I have the intelligence to build machines that can preform millions of operations per second. My body is capable of feats of impossible strength.

I, as a species, have reached a level of sapience not previously recorded. I own animals that, at one point, were our predatory rivals, and I now own their domesticated children.

I am able to memorize complex operations and movements to the point where my body can do them without thinking. I am completely capable of learning several languages, which alone are millions of sounds and specific mouth movements put together in an intricate and beautiful manner.

My species has reached outer space, and has plans to go further. My species is capable of completely eradicating itself.

Humans are amazing already. Why would you need "supernatural" aspects?

Merriam-Webster defines "Supernatural" as,"Unable to be explained by science or the laws of nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god, etc". However, when I read over some things that people mentioned, I wouldn't use the word "supernatural" to define them. I feel that these abilities and senses that people say to have gained can be explained pretty well by science or the laws of nature, thus contradicting the very definition of the word "supernatural".

But what about the likes of ghosts, angels, demons, monsters, gods, etc? Well, I'm a "seeing is believing" sort of person. I, personally, have never seen a real ghost, angel, demon, monster, god, etc. This, combined with the severe lack of credible scientific evidence, leads me to be very skeptical of the existence of such things. Besides that point, it is logically just ridiculous to me when it comes to such things and how they could possibly exist.

Let's take ghosts, for example. According to recorded history and science, humans have been around for a very long time in proportion to that of the standard human life span. If every human ever were to have been made into a sort of specter after death, left to walk the earth and what have you, the population density of such an otherworldly realm that mirrors that of earth would be ridiculous to say the least. With the amount of human deaths since our first conception, ghostly versions of our former selves would be literally everywhere on land, assuming ghosts like to stay on land, which seems most logical, as I have never heard of anybody encountering ghosts on a deep sea expedition. Think about it; every step you took would have you walking through another ghost. Where you're sitting now, reading this elaborate and confusing explanation, would have you slouching inside at least two to three ghostly apparitions. And yet, people only seem to encounter them one, maybe two, at a time? And not scrunched up within an ocean of ghosts that spans all across the continent? Very unbelievable in my opinion.

Anyway, that's my rant. Disclaimer; I don't claim to know the truth on the subject. For all I know, these things could be real. However, I wouldn't hold my breath.

A couple of hundred years ago, phenomena that are perfectly explained by science today, were regarded as supernatural and paranormal events. I think that a lot of things that are labeled as supernatural are just natural phenomena that we will be able to explain in the near future. Furthermore the mind is a powerful thing; things we see and hear are not always what truly exist. There are plenty of mental conditions where the brain hiccups and a person hallucinates. There are also foods and drugs that can trigger this. Who's to say that when someone sees something, it's not a chemical reaction?

For everything that's been posted in this thread, there are numerous theories that draw from science for a proper explanation. I want to believe a lot of fantastic things are real, but then I remember how people 200 years ago would react to things that are normal today, and I resign myself to the belief that in due time these strange occurrences will be scientifically explained. We're discovering new things every day after all.

I can see the future in my dreams .-.

I sometimes get a vision and i see someone doing something ordinary like bouncing a ball but then a few minutes later i see them in the same pose and the ball goes the same way it did before and we were in lines and that same person didn't get two turns

Well.. According to the Bible, which is pretty darn interesting when you get into it, we're supposed to be super natural. We're not meant to be normal. It's pretty vague to say we exist because we exist.

But supernatural things happen more often than you'd think, but most it you see according to my studies and research isn't the good side of it. Ghosts exist to falsify [input your beliefs]. They raise questions. Well, why do you think they're there? Because they're lost? Meh. I don't think so. Who put them there? Hm.

Healing really exists, believe or not, I've seen it myself, but it'd be so cool if you saw it for yourself! It's scary at first but after you see how the people react it is truly amazing. Look on youtube there's plenty if videos there. It's still better in person though.

To sum it up, yeah. I, too, think we have more potential than we're letting off. Maybe we're missing something. Amazing things happened in history and it's happening clandestinely now. CNN released a movie on people who died and came back and they say what they saw. After that their lives changed. *shrug*

Edit: My tia and cousin were living with us at the time and they would always say something was in the house. The dogs would park at nothing. After they left and the house was only filled with us four, mom, dad, brother and I, I was sitting at the table --side note: the people who lived in the house before us hung up plastic bags with pennies, crosses everywhere-- having a bowl of cereal when I look up and there's a man's silhouette in the window. For second I thought it was my brother until it vanished. Didn't walk away or anything, just vanished. (Windows were covered in blinds) Then it appeared in the second window, nearing the door. After that it was on the door, I don't know why I didn't move, but I was scared. Not just scared, it was that fear that you get when you literally feel you were going to die. Like raw dread, fear on such a high level. After that it was gone. Didn't see it anymore. Second time we were at a restaurant and this is when my cousin and tia were still around. A man, if it was a man, came into the restaurant walked by and he was staring at us. Again, there was that feeling that I was going to die. He looked so evil. My tia began sobbing and we had to leave. We had to really get out of that presence. Third is just the San Antonio ghost tracks. A lot of fun, but it raises questions. Set your car in neutral then sit in the passengers and let the hands on the back of your car push you over the tracks. Not scary at all. It's mainly fun for everyone, some people go at night just to make it seem scary, but that's nearly impossible since there's more than a few people there to check it out for themselves. It's also on youtube, plenty of footage.

It's crazy though. You don't start encountering these things until you, well, try God. Not as a religion, but as a relationship. The more you dig in you begin to see things. Not trying to press this on anyone, it's just always there to look into. Because I've kind of looked into Him I begin to see the evil separately. Made me really aware of what was really going on. I can go on and on with this, it's so exciting to talk about, but I'll stop here.

Just to throw this out there, you are assuming that all people who die become ghosts that continue to walk the Earth. However, most beliefs of ghosts that pose them as spirits wandering the Earth follow that there is a specific reason why it happens to some - not all. Typically reasons are things like "unfinished business" (with the implication that's it's something VERY important to that person), "unable to accept they're dead and move on," "particularly tragic/horrible death," etc. Ghosts on Earth are supposed to be special cases, not the norm.

If you are that kind of "seeing is believing" person then you won't want to experience ghosts, I was really young and it happened two times and every time i remember it I almost throw up.First,When i was about 4 years old and I lived in a basement.I had an imaginary friend and she was a girl.At first my mom thought she was also only an imaginary friend but then I started screaming at her to leave me alone and after that,A lot of nights after that were very noisy and scary.We kept hearing every single pair of shoes stamping up and down for hours and hours.This next one is actually kind of funny and a little scary.One night,I was with a friend of my mom's while they were on "date night" so it was me,her, and my sister and brother.I kept hearing scary music,kinda like the lavender town theme song and it was coming from somewhere.So I was really scared as my siblings were still sleeping in the room.It kept going on until my parents came back.They went to see my siblings in the room and it was suddenly very cold in the room when the rest of the house was the opposite.My mom was thinking what I was thinking "Ghost" and she took pictures around the room with her camera with a flash and mostly in the walk in closet.We found out that the creepy music was coming from my mom's old phone,that somehow got changed to that ringtone.The,next day we developed the pictures and we saw something that still thanks my mom for moving out of that apartment.We saw a shadowy figure in all of the walk in closet photos.The rest of the room was illuminated by the light and one corner had a shadowy figure.And hat was my experience with ghosts and trust me it is not pretty.

If that were the case, some sort of higher power or force would have to be the judge on whether or not the individual meets the requirements for walking among the living. That concept, much like ghosts, is something I do not believe in, going back to the severe lack of credible scientific evidence for such things.

Edit: The more I read this, the more pretentious I come off as to myself. Just know that I don't aim to put anyone down about their beliefs and such.

Most traditions hold that the spirit itself is the judge of that. Although I mention this purely out of literary interest.

What Kim sad, basically. While some beliefs do pose that ghosts are being punished, and that would require a judge, most of what I was talking about is purely functional mechanism. You don't need some judge to decide if you're upset enough to cry - you simply do it, because that's just how the body works. Similarly, a judge wouldn't be needed to decide if a person is in enough shock/denial/etc to fail to "realize" or "accept" that they're dead - if it is a thing that can happen, then it simply would.

Personally, I'm Agnostic on most of these sorts of matters (and a constant devil's advocate, to the point that I, unfortunately, am prone to irritating people). I can't say with certainty whether a thing is or isn't. I can't explain my mom's experiences, because I'm far too lacking in details. Same with a friend of mine who's fear is still apparent when he discusses the time a strange figure "roared" at him (he's very clear that it was a roar, not a shout or anything). I also can't explain why speaking in tongues seemed to be such a common thing at my parent's old church without calling certain individuals liars (and I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt). As for my personal experiences, much can easily be written off as imaginative brain glitches (the human brain truly is fascinating). One in particular, a time I held a pleasant conversation with a disembodied voice, is attributed to an interesting state between being awake and asleep, though it's usually described as a terrifying experience as it includes sleep paralysis.

I've had that before Novalyyn, talking to a disembodied voice but i chalked it up to brain hiccup too because, i was also partly asleep and partly away but still able to control myself so i could wake up. I was talking to my room mate and we share different rooms but we had a serious argument. anyway, to me i heard him open my locked door, i hear the dooor slam behind him and i hear him yell at me and i beg him to stop.

So i can tell you it was a brain hiccup more than a spiritual being... cuz my roomie ain't dead

I've been able to sense people's true motives and feelings, even so far as to sense their frame of mind from moment to moment. It's not always a pleasant ability, because I seem to have an uncanny knack for offending people IRL somehow, so most of the time I'm not sensing sunshine, rainbows, and butterflies when interacting with strangers. Even so, it does prove to be an efficient way of letting me know who to get close to and who to keep clear of.

Also, I have seen a ghost once before; and I believe - I am reluctant to say this, as I do sense dark spirits from time to time; but I do believe I have seen a shadow person or demon. Coupled with my empathic ability, if that even is the case, the most terrifying thing about that experience was the dry, cold dread just inviting me closer. The thing had the aura of a void, too... Curious because that morning, the sun was out full blast. And this occurred at 10am, with virtually no cloud cover. Fortunately I was in the doorway of another room and finally chalked up the courage to move my body (I was convinced it was going to lunge at me or kill me) to close the door. After a few panicked minutes and some prayer, I opened the door and the sun was shining through the window right behind where it had been sitting. The room was much, much darker when it was there, and what little cloud cover there was that day was certainly not enough to account for the change in the room. There would have had to be more than three times as much cloud cover and it would have had to have changed within three minutes - not something that really happens anywhere except maybe during a typhoon or some other great storm, and considering this was in Chicago, really not the case.

I can also see or sense movement, and I think I'm pretty good at tracking people and their distance from me, as well as general movement. For example, today I sensed a car pulling down our street before I heard it; and it was about 30 feet away at that moment. I've also tested this ability in walking with my eyes closed in a new environment or swimming underwater towards the edge of the pool with my eyes closed. As I approach an object; I can see or sense a fuzzy, blackness that warns me I'm about to collide with something. This has happened while swimming in ponds or lakes too when a fish gets too close... which was absolutely terrifying the first few times it happened. This makes it more of an annoyance than anything, and though I've come to accept it as part of my life; sometimes it is a bit much to always be sensing where people and things (such as cars) are coming and going. It can almost be nerve racking, which is why I like being in a small, solitary area or in a large crowd with a purpose in mind or just to mix and mingle.



And finally, in response to what SpilledInk crossed out, none of this really started happening or picking up momentum in my life until I started investigating my own faith and spirituality. I am a Christian, though there are enough things that I take a slightly different opinion or stance on which I think is true for anyone of any faith. But I have to agree with you wholeheartedly in what you said. Evil is separate, and so is darkness and all that cr@p - the thing I always remind myself is that darkness does not actually exist, it is just a word (and a potentially deadly idea/action when defined as sin) that describes the absence of light. Photons exist which are responsible for what we see as light, nothing exists that 'creates' darkness - it literally is the absence of photons/light. That's just the science of vision and physics... And I will stop nerding there.
Also, last paragraph is just my opinion; not trying to offend or force anything. Really, I would be interested in what anyone has to say about the sensing thing... it really is becoming a nerve-racking thing for me.

Sort of. I've had two people in my life claim they were vampires (not the kind you see in fiction). They had a specific aura and look to them, too. At first glance they're usually short, youthful people that are wise beyond their age, but if you look closely, you can see faint ages lines in their bodies and faces that make them look old. They're often very strong and fast contradictory to the sometimes frail frames they have.

Both these people acted similar and claimed the same things about vampires consistently, so there's something going on. But as a fellow human that's glimpsed at how manipulative they can be, I can only conclude that trying to do heavy research on real vampires would result in death or worse. Don't look for them.

That being said, if there are vampires, there can be other supernatural creatures. They just won't have unlimited power like stories and movies make them out to be.