You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truth. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic was on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information you need to swallow and spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if things don't get better right away.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with big enough enclosures to match their habitat, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the pointless white and golden furred tigers. Many think that white tigers are a natural subspecies on their own. Wrong. While they can occur rarely in the wild, they are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. These tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. They are not for conservation, and do not help their cause in anyway. They are manufactured to make them into attractions and draw in uninformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with any large cat cubs or any other predator's, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading, but I do recommend you see it.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good.
For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Ever notice how their dorsal fins are lopsided? This is a side effect of them not swimming enough in open water like they should.
Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment for their food. If they don't perform it right, they don't get their food. This was the cause of that most recent attack on that trainer, but Sea World wrote it off because of something as mundane as her ponytail. This was not the fault of the trainer, but rather the practices Sea World taught her to use. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. Orca's very rarely attack humans, and yet dozens in captivity. Makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 humans on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 sharks per hour. 100 million sharks are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie (And probably never will), but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
Why should you care about sharks? Without them, the entire ecosystem of the ocean would be thrown out of balance. Apex predators such as sharks are needed to filter out the weak of other species and in turn keep their populations and gene pools strong. This may seem cruel from a human perspective, but so is our culling them mercilessly when they're acting upon the laws of nature.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things. There are tons of online petitions for things such as this. Log on to one, and chip in to help get things done and get these animals out of these situations.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information you need to swallow and spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if things don't get better right away.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with big enough enclosures to match their habitat, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the pointless white and golden furred tigers. Many think that white tigers are a natural subspecies on their own. Wrong. While they can occur rarely in the wild, they are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. These tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. They are not for conservation, and do not help their cause in anyway. They are manufactured to make them into attractions and draw in uninformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with any large cat cubs or any other predator's, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading, but I do recommend you see it.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good.
For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Ever notice how their dorsal fins are lopsided? This is a side effect of them not swimming enough in open water like they should.
Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment for their food. If they don't perform it right, they don't get their food. This was the cause of that most recent attack on that trainer, but Sea World wrote it off because of something as mundane as her ponytail. This was not the fault of the trainer, but rather the practices Sea World taught her to use. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. Orca's very rarely attack humans, and yet dozens in captivity. Makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 humans on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 sharks per hour. 100 million sharks are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie (And probably never will), but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
Why should you care about sharks? Without them, the entire ecosystem of the ocean would be thrown out of balance. Apex predators such as sharks are needed to filter out the weak of other species and in turn keep their populations and gene pools strong. This may seem cruel from a human perspective, but so is our culling them mercilessly when they're acting upon the laws of nature.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things. There are tons of online petitions for things such as this. Log on to one, and chip in to help get things done and get these animals out of these situations.
You are my hero. That entire speech was perfect.
Tealight wrote:
You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truths. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic is on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Well, holy chihuahuas, i am way smarter now. Good thing i never got to Sea World (Marine Land in french). And i'll probably never, now that i know this. Everything has a dark side, and it's not always shown up to the public, as you well explained, Tealight. As for the matter of the orcas, they could totally make bigger bassins for them. Obviously, it's not the money that they dont have to do it, it's the fact that they just dont want to loose money. Very stupid of your part, Sea World.
Kuraudo47 wrote:
XXXKILLZONEUS wrote:
Blu_Dino wrote:
''White Nose Syndrom''?
Skiing the old alps, duh.
That a Canadian joke?
I have no idea if it was a Canadian joke but i was just naming the disease that fungus cause to the bats: ''White nose syndrom''.
Yeah, I will never go to sea world as I refuse to pay money to aid the abuse of gentle giants. I love marine animals more than all and it makes me angry that they would abuse them in such a way. Orcas didn't do anything wrong and it's just stupid that they don't care enough to make them comfortable. When I was younger I have always wanted to visit sea world, but I don't anymore.
Blu_Dino wrote:
Tealight wrote:
You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truths. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic is on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Well, holy chihuahuas, i am way smarter now. Good thing i never got to Sea World (Marine Land in french). And i'll probably never, now that i know this. Everything has a dark side, and it's not always shown up to the public, as you well explained, Tealight. As for the matter of the orcas, they could totally make bigger bassins for them. Obviously, it's not the money that they dont have to do it, it's the fact that they just dont want to loose money. Very stupid of your part, Sea World.
I am just very passionate about animals and wildlife, and I couldn't help but go on a tangent. Sea World did make plans to make a larger pool in one of their facilities, but that's really only a small bandaid on the problem. Truth is, all their whales should be moved into sea pens. Those are large pens made in the ocean for them to live out the rest of their lives in without worry of predators. The whales are possibly too used to captivity now, but being back in the ocean where they belong in some form is way better.
Tealight wrote:
Blu_Dino wrote:
Tealight wrote:
You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truths. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic is on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Well, holy chihuahuas, i am way smarter now. Good thing i never got to Sea World (Marine Land in french). And i'll probably never, now that i know this. Everything has a dark side, and it's not always shown up to the public, as you well explained, Tealight. As for the matter of the orcas, they could totally make bigger bassins for them. Obviously, it's not the money that they dont have to do it, it's the fact that they just dont want to loose money. Very stupid of your part, Sea World.
I am just very passionate about animals and wildlife, and I couldn't help but go on a tangent. Sea World did make plans to make a larger pool in one of their facilities, but that's really only a small bandaid on the problem. Truth is, all their whales should be moved into sea pens. Those are large pens made in the ocean for them to live out the rest of their lives in without worry of predators. The whales are possibly too used to captivity now, but being back in the ocean where they belong in some form is way better.
Well it's a good thing to know this stuff. I dont know if it's the same in english but, in french their slogan: ''Tout le monde aime Marine Land.'' (Which you can traduct into: ''Everybody likes Sea World.) And i always joked about ''Personne n'aime Marine Land'' (Which you can traduct into: ''Nobody likes Sea World.) Well now i hate it even more.
Blu_Dino wrote:
Tealight wrote:
Blu_Dino wrote:
Tealight wrote:
You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truths. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic is on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Well, holy chihuahuas, i am way smarter now. Good thing i never got to Sea World (Marine Land in french). And i'll probably never, now that i know this. Everything has a dark side, and it's not always shown up to the public, as you well explained, Tealight. As for the matter of the orcas, they could totally make bigger bassins for them. Obviously, it's not the money that they dont have to do it, it's the fact that they just dont want to loose money. Very stupid of your part, Sea World.
I am just very passionate about animals and wildlife, and I couldn't help but go on a tangent. Sea World did make plans to make a larger pool in one of their facilities, but that's really only a small bandaid on the problem. Truth is, all their whales should be moved into sea pens. Those are large pens made in the ocean for them to live out the rest of their lives in without worry of predators. The whales are possibly too used to captivity now, but being back in the ocean where they belong in some form is way better.
Well it's a good thing to know this stuff. I dont know if it's the same in english but, in french their slogan: ''Tout le monde aime Marine Land.'' (Which you can traduct into: ''Everybody likes Sea World.) And i always joked about ''Personne aime Marine Land'' (Which you can traduct into: ''Nobody likes Sea World.) Well now i hate it even more.
Yeah I am not so happy about that either. Thank you Tealight for the knowledge!
You're very welcome. Just knowing that I can shed the truth on these matters makes me feel like accomplished something today.
Tealight wrote:
You're very welcome. Just knowing that I can shed the truth on these matters makes me feel like accomplished something today.
Well you did. Be proud of yourself, seriously.
Tealight wrote:
You're very welcome. Just knowing that I can shed the truth on these matters makes me feel like accomplished something today.
You have accomplished something great and you have made a new friend. I'll have to share this knowledge with others.
Tealight wrote:
You really opened a can of worms asking this, so prepare for some dark truths. You want to help animals? The strongest weapon is information, and getting it out to the masses. Since the current topic is on elephant ivory, I'll start there.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
Ivory is taken from elephants and rhinos because of the false misconception that it can be used as an aphrodisiac by the Chinese who purchase them. In reality, the horn is made of the same ingredients found in our very own finger nails. That's not even the most disturbing thing they're willing to consume under false preconceptions either... But that's a different topic and I don't want to squick anyone. Long story short, raise awareness of the issue. Push for the government to do something about the black market and inform everyone on their plight.
Apart from that issue, there's the matter of tigers who are on a crash course to extinction for similar reasons. They're also hunted similarly like elephants, but here's some information to swallow that you need to spread:
Tigers are going to go extinct in the wild by 2020 if nobody does anything.
You may think it's fine as long as they exist in zoos and what not, but that's farther from the truth. Most zoos don't provide their big cat predators with the right enclosures, let alone the enrichment they need to live like they would in the wild (If you see them pacing back and forth in the enclosure, this is why.)
There's also the dubious matter of a lot of them breeding for the useless white and golden furred tigers. These tigers, while rare in the wild, are the result of inbreeding to get the recessive genes to shine through the dominant ones. The tigers are far from healthy, and always end up with lots of birth defects as a consequence. This isn't done for conservation, but to make them attractions and draw in uniformed masses to make money.
Also, if you see an attraction to pay and play with tiger or any other large cat cubs, don't. These animals are usually drugged so they won't do much harm to the customers no matter how roughly they're handled. It's just another sad facet of animal cruelty.
Orcas, sharks and other marine animals:
You may have seen the "Blackfish" documentary on the dark side of Sea World and their handling of orcas. If you have not, then keep reading.
Sea World does a good job at making themselves look like the good guy, but they're really not. Sure, they may help with rescues of wild life, and raise some awareness, but their lies and crimes outweigh a lot of the good. For starters, the pools the orcas are kept in are only big enough to be considered bathtubs to the orcas. They're supposed to swim hundreds of miles a day, but in those pools they can only swim around in circle after circle in boredom. Orca's along with other cetaceans such as dolphins are incredibly smart creatures; smarter than most humans and yet Sea World trains them to perform mindless circus acts for our entertainment. Try to imagine what it must feel like in that sort of life. There has never been a recorded orca attack on a human in the wild, only in captivity which makes you really question why people call them "killer" whales. To make matters worse, they regularly lie about the facts they give visitors on the whales.
Sea World is the leading head in all marine animal capture and trade, but they're not the only one. Do yourself a favor and boycott them.
Sharks kill about 10 on average each year. Humans kill 11,417 per hour. 100 million are culled annually. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact. Finning and irrational fear are the main reasons. People weren't even that afraid of sharks once upon a time ago, until a movie called Jaws came upon the movie scene. I personally have never seen the movie, but I have a good idea of how it portrayed the sharks. They are not mindless killing machines, if they attack us its because they mistook us for one of their prey. The odds of you being attacked by sharks are 1 in 262,365.
As for finning, it is the act of pulling the shark out the water to have it's fins slashed off and then thrown back in to die. The fins are then cooked up into a disgusting soup that's way more harm than good due to the high mercury content. It's a dangerous Chinese delicacy that isn't worth being made.
tl;dr... What? There is no short version. Inform yourselves of the facts and share the knowledge with others. If you can even get one person to boycott the shadier side of animal trade and business, then you have helped animals. There will never be a quick fix unless someone of higher power chooses to do something about it, but that doesn't mean you can't try by doing little things.
This is some really good info. Do you have any info on Little Brown Myotis?
Is it alright if I post this on my Facebook page? I'll give credit to you if I can.
Sadly, I just heard about that today once you mentioned it, but I'll be on the lookout for more information. Where did you hear about it?
And by all means, upload it to facebook, but can I edit it first? There's a few things I want to touch up on it that I missed when I posted it.
*Edit* Alright, I fixed it. And I did a fact check on the number of orca attacks in the wild, and there have been a very small number of them, but the fact still remains. I meant to do that before, and it kept bothering me cause it seemed rather implausible. I wish I could add in more about a few more animals, especially about bees, but it's long enough. Find my original post about it.
And by all means, upload it to facebook, but can I edit it first? There's a few things I want to touch up on it that I missed when I posted it.
*Edit* Alright, I fixed it. And I did a fact check on the number of orca attacks in the wild, and there have been a very small number of them, but the fact still remains. I meant to do that before, and it kept bothering me cause it seemed rather implausible. I wish I could add in more about a few more animals, especially about bees, but it's long enough. Find my original post about it.
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