Day Without Phone or Internet (dun dun dun....click here)
I went to my mom's, night before last, and I did NOT take my phone. It was the first time I had been without internet for...a long time.
I had been on my phone almost constantly in the days leading up to that. Chatting and role-playing on RpR. When I say constantly, I mean, like, almost 16 hours a day.
I would start to get nervous and antsy if I didn't have my phone in my hand. It was becoming a thing.
At my mom's, I had been constantly on my phone, with the exception of, like, "I can't get my shoe on," or "can you refill my water bottle?" or "I accidentally spilled milk in my shoe." Truly necessary point-blank requests, I would not say no to, but the entire rest of the time, I was in bed, on my phone. So I left my phone at home, finally. So what happened, you might be wondering.
Well, I did start getting antsy, just like a smoker going cold turkey or something. I had to fill the void. I turned on the radio. I turned it up LOUD (for some reason that helps). Feeling the vibration of that music in my body did a little bit to satisfy the craving...for...whatever the heck it is I crave.
I don't even know what to call it. Mental stimulation? Emotional stimulation? Engagement? Engrossment? Complete engulfment in something?
For some reason, loud music helps. You feel like you're engulfed in something.
I also bought cigars. I sometimes smoke swisher sweets, but rarely. The day I left my phone, I bought several packs and chain smoked them a bit. Then, I got the random urge to buy alcohol. So I bought a bottle of whiskey, which remains unopened...the urge for that went away (and I don't have any problem with drinking or anything, just by the way. If I would've had any, it would've been like two drinks and that's it. I don't drink to excess. Mainly because a few get me feeling good, and more than that result in a hangover, which is no fun at all).
Another effect of not role-playing for a day after role-playing non-stop for weeks was that I got more needy and desperate for deep conversation (isn't that weird? DEEP conversation only).
Sandra was with me, helping me run errands, and all of a sudden I was feigning and I tried to make her help me fill this inexplicable craving, and it worked a little bit, but not really.
I think writing is such an intimate act (even when writing by yourself), that I was feigning for intimacy. So we went from near silence listening to the radio and talking about her job to this:
Me: "Do you think people are more than the sum of our parts?"
Sandra: "Yeah, of course. We have to be."
Me: "Okay, Sandra...tell me something. Do you think Sigmund Freud was right?"
Sandra: "About...?"
Me: "That all of our behaviors come from one of two core motives: the desire for sex, and the desire to be great?"
Sandra: "What does that mean the desire to be great?"
Me: "You know... greatness. To make a huge impact. To be the best at what you do. Greatness. To have social status."
Sandra: "Well, no...some people are happy being a housewife, or being a mother, just having a little family and a modest house. That's all I want."
Me: "But what if you get all of those things someday, and you're still not happy?"
Sandra: "Well yeah, if your kid doesn't like you, or if partner doesn't spend time with you (see the dig there?), then you might not be happy. But then you just try to fix it."
Me: "So you believe that happiness is possible. Given the right set of objective circumstances, you'd be happy, and if you're not, there's some definite set of circumstances that would make you happy? Happiness is possible?"
Sandra: "Yes."
Me: "Okay. Well...let me tell you why it's hard to stop role-playing and chatting for a day, and you tell me if you understand."
Sandra: "What?"
Me: "Here's why it's so hard to stop role-playing. I have this feeling--this gnawing, nagging feeling, and it's boring into me, all the time, and it's always there. And I never thought there was anything I could do about it. I always thought it was inevitable, so I was able to just live my life and put up with it being there."
Sandra: (looks up from book) "...with what being there?"
Me: "Grrr...that feeling. That gnawing feeling inside of me, like a hunger. It's like a craving for intimacy or something."
Sandra: "What do you mean? Why can't you be intimate with me? I give you emotional intimacy."
Me: "Yes, yes--you do. That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is...not romantic, just on a human to human level-- it could be with a bunch of people. It's like the urge to matter to people, to matter at all."
Sandra: "Why are you trying to matter to a bunch of people--you can't even take care of your responsibilities to me and your mom."
Me: "Ugh! You're stopping me in the middle of my thought and you're not even letting me get to the point! Just listen to the whole thing and then tell me if you understand it or not."
Sandra: "Okay, go ahead."
Me: "Okay, the feeling I get that's always there, always in the background...I never knew there was a way to relieve it, but when I'm writing stories, when I'm role-playing, for the time that I'm role-playing, that feeling goes away, and I don't feel it. It's like, there's relief. And for a moment, everything's perfect. Even though the outside world is not. So right now, not having my phone--just having move around and exist in the world of matter, and space, where things don't happen at the speed of thought, where the gnawing, nagging hunger is back and constant and won't go away, when I know that it will be gone if I am roleplaying--of course it's hard to stop. Of course it's hard to go a day without my phone. Does that make any sense to you at all?"
Sandra: (looks up at me from her book): "I still don't get you."
Me: (sighs) "I know. I know you don't. Because you don't have that. I don't know why I've always had that nagging, empty feeling that other people don't have."
Then she said something really profound. She said,
"It's probably because your family's spread out all over the country, and you were never really close to your family."
"Oh, wow. So you think I'm trying to build a family? The family environment? A group of people you can basically tell anything too?"
Sandra: "Well no, I didn't say that..."
Me: "Well, but that kind of makes sense..."
We went through every deep thing I could think of. It was so odd. Then I gave up and we went back to light stuff and went shopping.
Later that night, and for the next day, I had no phone with internet.
What did I do? I grabbed a handful of computer paper and a pen and literally spent the next 5 hours writing 20 pages in a short story. And it was just as addictive as role-play.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
I went to my mom's, night before last, and I did NOT take my phone. It was the first time I had been without internet for...a long time.
I had been on my phone almost constantly in the days leading up to that. Chatting and role-playing on RpR. When I say constantly, I mean, like, almost 16 hours a day.
I would start to get nervous and antsy if I didn't have my phone in my hand. It was becoming a thing.
At my mom's, I had been constantly on my phone, with the exception of, like, "I can't get my shoe on," or "can you refill my water bottle?" or "I accidentally spilled milk in my shoe." Truly necessary point-blank requests, I would not say no to, but the entire rest of the time, I was in bed, on my phone. So I left my phone at home, finally. So what happened, you might be wondering.
Well, I did start getting antsy, just like a smoker going cold turkey or something. I had to fill the void. I turned on the radio. I turned it up LOUD (for some reason that helps). Feeling the vibration of that music in my body did a little bit to satisfy the craving...for...whatever the heck it is I crave.
I don't even know what to call it. Mental stimulation? Emotional stimulation? Engagement? Engrossment? Complete engulfment in something?
For some reason, loud music helps. You feel like you're engulfed in something.
I also bought cigars. I sometimes smoke swisher sweets, but rarely. The day I left my phone, I bought several packs and chain smoked them a bit. Then, I got the random urge to buy alcohol. So I bought a bottle of whiskey, which remains unopened...the urge for that went away (and I don't have any problem with drinking or anything, just by the way. If I would've had any, it would've been like two drinks and that's it. I don't drink to excess. Mainly because a few get me feeling good, and more than that result in a hangover, which is no fun at all).
Another effect of not role-playing for a day after role-playing non-stop for weeks was that I got more needy and desperate for deep conversation (isn't that weird? DEEP conversation only).
Sandra was with me, helping me run errands, and all of a sudden I was feigning and I tried to make her help me fill this inexplicable craving, and it worked a little bit, but not really.
I think writing is such an intimate act (even when writing by yourself), that I was feigning for intimacy. So we went from near silence listening to the radio and talking about her job to this:
Me: "Do you think people are more than the sum of our parts?"
Sandra: "Yeah, of course. We have to be."
Me: "Okay, Sandra...tell me something. Do you think Sigmund Freud was right?"
Sandra: "About...?"
Me: "That all of our behaviors come from one of two core motives: the desire for sex, and the desire to be great?"
Sandra: "What does that mean the desire to be great?"
Me: "You know... greatness. To make a huge impact. To be the best at what you do. Greatness. To have social status."
Sandra: "Well, no...some people are happy being a housewife, or being a mother, just having a little family and a modest house. That's all I want."
Me: "But what if you get all of those things someday, and you're still not happy?"
Sandra: "Well yeah, if your kid doesn't like you, or if partner doesn't spend time with you (see the dig there?), then you might not be happy. But then you just try to fix it."
Me: "So you believe that happiness is possible. Given the right set of objective circumstances, you'd be happy, and if you're not, there's some definite set of circumstances that would make you happy? Happiness is possible?"
Sandra: "Yes."
Me: "Okay. Well...let me tell you why it's hard to stop role-playing and chatting for a day, and you tell me if you understand."
Sandra: "What?"
Me: "Here's why it's so hard to stop role-playing. I have this feeling--this gnawing, nagging feeling, and it's boring into me, all the time, and it's always there. And I never thought there was anything I could do about it. I always thought it was inevitable, so I was able to just live my life and put up with it being there."
Sandra: (looks up from book) "...with what being there?"
Me: "Grrr...that feeling. That gnawing feeling inside of me, like a hunger. It's like a craving for intimacy or something."
Sandra: "What do you mean? Why can't you be intimate with me? I give you emotional intimacy."
Me: "Yes, yes--you do. That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is...not romantic, just on a human to human level-- it could be with a bunch of people. It's like the urge to matter to people, to matter at all."
Sandra: "Why are you trying to matter to a bunch of people--you can't even take care of your responsibilities to me and your mom."
Me: "Ugh! You're stopping me in the middle of my thought and you're not even letting me get to the point! Just listen to the whole thing and then tell me if you understand it or not."
Sandra: "Okay, go ahead."
Me: "Okay, the feeling I get that's always there, always in the background...I never knew there was a way to relieve it, but when I'm writing stories, when I'm role-playing, for the time that I'm role-playing, that feeling goes away, and I don't feel it. It's like, there's relief. And for a moment, everything's perfect. Even though the outside world is not. So right now, not having my phone--just having move around and exist in the world of matter, and space, where things don't happen at the speed of thought, where the gnawing, nagging hunger is back and constant and won't go away, when I know that it will be gone if I am roleplaying--of course it's hard to stop. Of course it's hard to go a day without my phone. Does that make any sense to you at all?"
Sandra: (looks up at me from her book): "I still don't get you."
Me: (sighs) "I know. I know you don't. Because you don't have that. I don't know why I've always had that nagging, empty feeling that other people don't have."
Then she said something really profound. She said,
"It's probably because your family's spread out all over the country, and you were never really close to your family."
"Oh, wow. So you think I'm trying to build a family? The family environment? A group of people you can basically tell anything too?"
Sandra: "Well no, I didn't say that..."
Me: "Well, but that kind of makes sense..."
We went through every deep thing I could think of. It was so odd. Then I gave up and we went back to light stuff and went shopping.
Later that night, and for the next day, I had no phone with internet.
What did I do? I grabbed a handful of computer paper and a pen and literally spent the next 5 hours writing 20 pages in a short story. And it was just as addictive as role-play.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
*100 points of FIH (Faith in Humanity) lost*
I don't even bring my phone to school...
Still tho, good job or something...
I don't even bring my phone to school...
Still tho, good job or something...
Heya, love!
I know it's a bit rough, working through this addiction you're not positive on what it even is about. But I'm proud of you for working through it! You've got grit, Gail. I admire your strength to see that you could have an issue and that you want to tackle it head on.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
^^ That I completely understand, seeing as writing is the same thing for me. It gives you a world away from home, one where you control the outcome, one where you can write your own destiny. It's a safe escape, one where you know, that in the end, everything will come together. Out here, it's scary, and we can only see so far into the future. Writing is your safety.
Personally, I don't think it's all bad, if it makes you feel safe. But the issue is, one day, we're going to have to be brave, and step out of our comfort zone. You're already doing it. I'm so proud of you.
Love you lots, girl! I'm here for you every step of the way!
I know it's a bit rough, working through this addiction you're not positive on what it even is about. But I'm proud of you for working through it! You've got grit, Gail. I admire your strength to see that you could have an issue and that you want to tackle it head on.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
^^ That I completely understand, seeing as writing is the same thing for me. It gives you a world away from home, one where you control the outcome, one where you can write your own destiny. It's a safe escape, one where you know, that in the end, everything will come together. Out here, it's scary, and we can only see so far into the future. Writing is your safety.
Personally, I don't think it's all bad, if it makes you feel safe. But the issue is, one day, we're going to have to be brave, and step out of our comfort zone. You're already doing it. I'm so proud of you.
Love you lots, girl! I'm here for you every step of the way!
Skrifa wrote:
Heya, love!
I know it's a bit rough, working through this addiction you're not positive on what it even is about. But I'm proud of you for working through it! You've got grit, Gail. I admire your strength to see that you could have an issue and that you want to tackle it head on.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
^^ That I completely understand, seeing as writing is the same thing for me. It gives you a world away from home, one where you control the outcome, one where you can write your own destiny. It's a safe escape, one where you know, that in the end, everything will come together. Out here, it's scary, and we can only see so far into the future. Writing is your safety.
Personally, I don't think it's all bad, if it makes you feel safe. But the issue is, one day, we're going to have to be brave, and step out of our comfort zone. You're already doing it. I'm so proud of you.
Love you lots, girl! I'm here for you every step of the way!
I know it's a bit rough, working through this addiction you're not positive on what it even is about. But I'm proud of you for working through it! You've got grit, Gail. I admire your strength to see that you could have an issue and that you want to tackle it head on.
So maybe I'm addicted to writing, and can that be all bad? I think it's an anti-anxiety thing for me; I get the urge to be completely enveloped in a world, completely engrossed in it, whether it's writing, or music, or anything else.
^^ That I completely understand, seeing as writing is the same thing for me. It gives you a world away from home, one where you control the outcome, one where you can write your own destiny. It's a safe escape, one where you know, that in the end, everything will come together. Out here, it's scary, and we can only see so far into the future. Writing is your safety.
Personally, I don't think it's all bad, if it makes you feel safe. But the issue is, one day, we're going to have to be brave, and step out of our comfort zone. You're already doing it. I'm so proud of you.
Love you lots, girl! I'm here for you every step of the way!
Haha... This was a lovely comment. Thank you
Moonlight_Minccino wrote:
*100 points of FIH (Faith in Humanity) lost*
I don't even bring my phone to school...
Still tho, good job or something...
I don't even bring my phone to school...
Still tho, good job or something...
Why faith in humanity lost? Lol Don't lose faith in humanity, silly!
Anyway... thanks for commenting!
Lol...when I put this story up, I thought it was kind of an amusing story...because of the exchange between Sandra and I and my amuseing...like "I don't have my phone, what do I do now!?" Lol. Now I'm starting to think it comes off as more of a depressing story. Sorry...I did not mean for it to be. Everybody has some challenge in life, it's ok. I still find amusement in it though.
Mainly I want to know it anyone else experiences the feelings I describe in here. The hole in your soul kind of thing.
Ok, thanks!
Mainly I want to know it anyone else experiences the feelings I describe in here. The hole in your soul kind of thing.
Ok, thanks!
Omg Im so proud of you *huuuuuuugs*
You did great. Im glad you found positivity in all this.
Your awesome.
You did great. Im glad you found positivity in all this.
Your awesome.
I would definitely struggle if I couldn't use my phone for a day; but I have had a few times in the last few months where the power went out and it was storming and I couldn't use my phone much and I ended up reading, which was nice but after 4 hours I really wanted to watch a show, or a video, or talk to someone. So, good for you! I think you should continue having 'no phone' days, at the very least have no internet days. Turn the internet data off your phone if possible (on mine there is a button in the top pull down section where you can turn off internet data like flipping a light switch off, but still use your calling and texting and then turn it back on again later.)
Secondly; I'm definitely addicted to writing, RP writing and writing in general. I've decided to use it to my advantage, and become an author. That is my passion and career, but I now it's not an option or desire for everyone. I still struggle to pull myself away from RP for a few hours a day to work on my book, so it's a work in progress but I adore writing. There's nothing I am as good at as I am at writing, there's nothing I love more. It's honestly my only true talented I have that I can make money from, and my only option career wise because of my chronic pain.
I'd suggest maybe trying to take up some freelance writing work, and see how that works for you. Maybe you'll be able to make some money every now and again off your addiction to writing on the side of your day job haha.
Secondly; I'm definitely addicted to writing, RP writing and writing in general. I've decided to use it to my advantage, and become an author. That is my passion and career, but I now it's not an option or desire for everyone. I still struggle to pull myself away from RP for a few hours a day to work on my book, so it's a work in progress but I adore writing. There's nothing I am as good at as I am at writing, there's nothing I love more. It's honestly my only true talented I have that I can make money from, and my only option career wise because of my chronic pain.
I'd suggest maybe trying to take up some freelance writing work, and see how that works for you. Maybe you'll be able to make some money every now and again off your addiction to writing on the side of your day job haha.
Yesss. I have done some of that through Onespace.
Thanks for relating!
Thanks for relating!
Hikari_Yagaza wrote:
Omg Im so proud of you *huuuuuuugs*
You did great. Im glad you found positivity in all this.
Your awesome.
You did great. Im glad you found positivity in all this.
Your awesome.
Thanks!
So proud of you. I actually need my phone constantly due to 2 family crisises. But i am separated from my phone at work cept for breaks.
Sexysultrybabe wrote:
So proud of you. I actually need my phone constantly due to 2 family crisises. But i am separated from my phone at work cept for breaks.
2 of them..sorry to hear that...hugs.
Thank you. "Big hugs". I got 2 things I collect which drive my fiance crazy they are my collecting addictions.You can read on my profile page. Thank you for your friendship and for all you do to make RPR awesome. But cellphones still are a necessity in this modern world.
i totally getting the writing part…and the need to matter…and the family thing although my fam is all in one place and i see them somewhat often, it just isnt what rpr gives me
with the writing part…im like that more with reading but i love writing also…escaping is always good
anyways…you are awesome
with the writing part…im like that more with reading but i love writing also…escaping is always good
anyways…you are awesome
Honestly, Demi has said it all, but I do like to add that when you're in marriage, it's all about "us" and not "me", while there are times when you can focus on yourself, which is completely healthy, but once you promise yourself to another for potentially the rest of your life, some sacrifices need to be made. Addiction is a terrible thing to live with, but I don't doubt that it is impossible to conquer, as long as you react on time before it costs you everything, while I do believe your addiction CAN be conquered. Remember the reason why you married your wife, both of you should face the issue selflessly and deal with it with cool heads. Easier said than done, I know, but it's still something. Good luck.
Emo wrote:
i totally getting the writing part…and the need to matter…and the family thing although my fam is all in one place and i see them somewhat often, it just isnt what rpr gives me
with the writing part…im like that more with reading but i love writing also…escaping is always good
anyways…you are awesome
with the writing part…im like that more with reading but i love writing also…escaping is always good
anyways…you are awesome
Thank you, Emo. You're wonderful.
Demilicious wrote:
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Thank you for these insights. And with the experiences you've had through association with your dad, they are very valuable insights. I seriously appreciate you taking the time to write down these thoughts, and I take them exactly as intended, which is that you're trying to help. An escapism addiction is not something I had ever thought of or heard of, but the way you describe it, it makes perfect sense. Avoiding the present moment -- that makes perfect sense. I had not seen the common thread that ran through all my addictive behaviors-- they allow me escape to the present moment. To go into the big picture. Now why I am trying to escape the present moment, I have no idea--whether it's some constant anxiety that I'm trying to avoid, or what, but apparently escaping the present moment is exactly what I'm trying to do. That is incredibly insightful. Thank you for the warnings about the red flags. It's true, they keep getting worse and worse, to be honest. I don't have to ask that question, because I already know exactly what Sandra would say. So. Anyway. I'm going to address this. Thank you kindly.
Something that someone very insightful said about my characters once, was that he was always trying to solve other peoples' problems because he didn't want to face his own. When she said that (about my character), that resonated with me. And I thought, is that true? Do I do that? Do I do that in real life? Because our characters are often like us in many ways. Anyway, thanks for this.
Queen_of_Hell wrote:
Honestly, Demi has said it all, but I do like to add that when you're in marriage, it's all about "us" and not "me", while there are times when you can focus on yourself, which is completely healthy, but once you promise yourself to another for potentially the rest of your life, some sacrifices need to be made. Addiction is a terrible thing to live with, but I don't doubt that it is impossible to conquer, as long as you react on time before it costs you everything, while I do believe your addiction CAN be conquered. Remember the reason why you married your wife, both of you should face the issue selflessly and deal with it with cool heads. Easier said than done, I know, but it's still something. Good luck.
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to write your thoughts.
damnationfromafar wrote:
I would definitely struggle if I couldn't use my phone for a day; but I have had a few times in the last few months where the power went out and it was storming and I couldn't use my phone much and I ended up reading, which was nice but after 4 hours I really wanted to watch a show, or a video, or talk to someone. So, good for you! I think you should continue having 'no phone' days, at the very least have no internet days. Turn the internet data off your phone if possible (on mine there is a button in the top pull down section where you can turn off internet data like flipping a light switch off, but still use your calling and texting and then turn it back on again later.)
Secondly; I'm definitely addicted to writing, RP writing and writing in general. I've decided to use it to my advantage, and become an author. That is my passion and career, but I now it's not an option or desire for everyone. I still struggle to pull myself away from RP for a few hours a day to work on my book, so it's a work in progress but I adore writing. There's nothing I am as good at as I am at writing, there's nothing I love more. It's honestly my only true talented I have that I can make money from, and my only option career wise because of my chronic pain.
I'd suggest maybe trying to take up some freelance writing work, and see how that works for you. Maybe you'll be able to make some money every now and again off your addiction to writing on the side of your day job haha.
Secondly; I'm definitely addicted to writing, RP writing and writing in general. I've decided to use it to my advantage, and become an author. That is my passion and career, but I now it's not an option or desire for everyone. I still struggle to pull myself away from RP for a few hours a day to work on my book, so it's a work in progress but I adore writing. There's nothing I am as good at as I am at writing, there's nothing I love more. It's honestly my only true talented I have that I can make money from, and my only option career wise because of my chronic pain.
I'd suggest maybe trying to take up some freelance writing work, and see how that works for you. Maybe you'll be able to make some money every now and again off your addiction to writing on the side of your day job haha.
Thank you Damnationfromafar, this is a great and detailed comment as you always write, and it's great. Yes, more no phone days need to happen. I need to generally just not take the phone to my mom's at all, that's the bottom line. Even if I do some other form of escapism it's not likely to last as long as it does when it's phone related, because phones can go everywhere. I have a flip phone now with no internet so this is a possibility now. Anyway. Thank you sharing your thoughts as always.
Sexysultrybabe wrote:
Thank you. "Big hugs". I got 2 things I collect which drive my fiance crazy they are my collecting addictions.You can read on my profile page. Thank you for your friendship and for all you do to make RPR awesome. But cellphones still are a necessity in this modern world.
Wow and congrats on the engagement. I didn't know you were a musician and write songs! That's so cool. I play a little piano and I own a guitar but can only play one or two Eagles songs because my fingers only like 5 or 6 chords--the ones the Eagles use in almost every song. Lol.
Anyway... yes, thank you for your friendship as well--you're a bright light. I'm so glad you welcome people like you do cause I'm not so consistent about that. It's always nice to see your warm welcomes because it's important--it's nice to be welcomed. So kudos on that. Ttyl!
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