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psionicburst

Thought this would be useful for all of you folks out there wondering if taking someone's face irl is ethical.
May I present to you, THE FUTURE!

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

It's a neural network that generates a unique face from A.I., no faces generated exist outside of the neural network, so it's completely guilt free, and for you anime connoisseurs, may I present to you this lovely gem created in the exact same way:

https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/

This one auto refreshes every 15 seconds, so press that PAUSE REFRESH button at the bottom first. Keep in mind, this generates female faces exclusively, and you'll have to scour the interwebs yourself if you're hankering for a male generator, also, you might want to be careful, due to the fact that some generations look slightly questionable. If you've ever been to "that side" of the internet, you'll know what I mean.
This is very interesting! I'm especially curious about the rights connected to these photos and illustrations. It seems obvious to me that these images are being generated by using resources from existing pictures, but do they have rights to those pictures? Where are they getting them from? Do WE have rights to the newly generated pictures? Can we modify them?

I noticed the waifu one in particular is... Prone to being a bit wonky, like with this image:
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-60955.jpg

and this one that I found a few seconds after:
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-17468.jpg

which, hilariously enough came with THIS for its anime/episode description:
The next big anime

Akai Nui, a man is sent by the Nai jinchūriki family to investigate the Mai jinchūriki's death by killing a dragon. In this episode, the main heroine, Ji Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kiri Kir



But I have seen a lot of good ones and none of them pop up when reverse image searched, even though I definitely recognize some of the resources (if you choose to use these, don't be surprised if someone accuses you of tracing).

This one could use some cleaning up, but otherwise it's quite pretty:
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-88871.jpg

this one is cute too:
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-17277.jpg

and so is this one!
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-21268.jpg

and omg, I love this one!
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/example-87940.jpg

I won't use any of the images I posted fyi. You guys are free to take em.
psionicburst Topic Starter

"The Next Big Anime" cracked me up. I even took the time to decipher all that into logical sense.

"The Resurrection of the Crimson Dragon": クリムゾンドラゴンの復活, Kurimuzondoragon no fukkatsu

Akai Nui is an elite special agent from a secret underground task force named "Quasar Ultima" or "QU". One fateful day, the infamous masked killer "Crimson Dragon", who was thought to be dead for years, murders Maijin Churiki, the president of the agency, in cold blood, and none other than Akai is the first to jump on the case that would forever change his life. Along the way, he meets a mysterious woman named Ji Kiri, a.k.a. Agent 230, who claims to have known Akai for all of his life despite never meeting him. Together, the two search for the answers worldwide to solve the mystery.

Anyways, I went diving deep into the websites of this guy and he did end up making a sort-of copyright disclosure statement, which I copy-pasted below.
Copyright infringement: “Who owns StyleGAN images?”

1. The Nvidia source code & released models are under a CC-BY-NC license, and you cannot edit them or produce “"derivative works"” such as retraining their FFHQ, cat, or cat StyleGAN models. If a model is trained from scratch, then that does not apply as the source code is simply another tool used to create the model and nothing about the CC-BY-NC license forces you to donate the copyright to Nvidia. (It would be odd if such a thing did happen—if your word processor claimed to transfer the copyrights of everything written in it to Microsoft!)

2. Models in general are generally considered “"transformative works"” and the copyright owners of whatever data the model was trained on have no copyright on the model. The model is copyrighted to whomever created it. Hence, Nvidia has copyright on the models it created but I have copyright under the models I trained (which I release under CC-0).

3. Samples are a little trickier. The usual widely-stated legal interpretation is that the standard copyright law position is that only human authors can earn a copyright and that machines, animals, inanimate objects or most famously, monkeys, cannot. A dump of random samples such as the Nvidia samples or TWDNE therefore has no copyright & is in the public domain. A new copyright can be created, however, if a human author is sufficiently ‘in the loop’, so to speak, as to exert a de minimis amount of creative effort, even if that creative effort is simply selecting a single image out of a dump of thousands of them or twiddling knobs until they get what like (eg on Make Girls.Moe). Crypko, for example, take this position.

Obviously, this contains a whole bunch of jargon that is kinda confusing to people not in the loop, so to make it easier, this is what is being said in layman's terms for each of the rules.

1. The source code itself and the original images that the source code uses to make the generated image are under copyright protection by their own users, and cannot be edited or added on. If a similar code is used to create your own thing, then by all means, go ahead and do that.

2. Stuff made with the generator are unique enough to avoid any copyright claims from anyone.

3. Stuff made with the generator, if put out into the public are free-use, unless the person goes through enough trouble to copyright whatever the generator created for them.
So, absolutely FREE!
this is... really cool? I've seen it once before, but for some reason I didn't even think to use it for characters.

I wonder if I can get any ideas from something that comes up :o
Cass Moderator

This is INCREDIBLE! :)
psionicburst Topic Starter

My small li'l thread being noticed by a moderator? Even more INCREDIBLE-r!
There's also MorphThing, which merges two or more faces from uploads or from a selection of celebrity and character photos. I know some folks have used it before, but it is, admittedly, not ideal for believability, since the more you do it the more fuzzy they get, but it offers more control of features.

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