YouTube keeps trying to become more "innovative" with every update, but with this new comment section, people are getting viruses and stuff. Not to mention "Bob" and his army against YouTube. And the spambots that pretend to talk to people and give links to bad sites. GAH. Anyways, I don't think I can be proven wrong that it can get worse than this, but I'd like to see people try. What do you think that YouTube can do to make the YouTube experience a thousands times worse? I just want to know. 
Google can make youtube worse by continuing to push Google+ at people. Nobody liked it when it came out. They're still not gonna like it when you spruce up the packaging and change the label on the tin. The contents are still horrible and they still are gonna be horrible. No matter if you colored your tin to look like another brand.
I'm pretty much done with youtube. It's made it difficult to upload and manage and I just don't want to deal with it anymore.
I'm pretty much done with youtube. It's made it difficult to upload and manage and I just don't want to deal with it anymore.
Google Pus. That's all I have to say.
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I give credit to Ross for finding this.
I give credit to Ross for finding this.
I love Google+ so much. Soooo much more than facebook. I don't really understand why people dislike it at all, to me the UI is vastly superior.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
Kim wrote:
I love Google+ so much. Soooo much more than facebook. I don't really understand why people dislike it at all, to me the UI is vastly superior.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
I used to love the bejeebus out of G+, BUUUUUUT:
1. If you weren't logging in every day, you missed out on a lot of changes they rolled out so often, that when you came back it was super disorientating. Eventually I got tired of just having figure out how to do something, and a couple of days later I had to figure it out all over again.
2. The social aspect was missing. I had hundreds of strangers who put me into their circles, and a handful of people I talked to, but most of my friends and family (basically all except for 2 or 3 actually) never used it. The content that got put onto G+ also never quite what I was looking for because I didn't have the right people to follow.
3. The integration into Youtube pissed me off SO MUCH. They didn't announce it properly ahead of time, it just suddenly happened, then you were forced to use your real name on G+ instead of your nickname (which I loathe doing on a place like Youtube) and when you disconnect your G+ from your Youtube, you lose all your shit. I lost all my uploaded videos, playlists, favorites, subscriptions etc.
Or so I thought. I found out that you just end up creating 2 accounts this way (one purely Youtube, one G+ integrated Youtube) and that you need to switch accounts to get your stuff back. It took me a longass time to figure this out though, and I was seething because I thought I'd lost everything. The solution was so super simple, but Google's support desk is so annoyingly unorganized and roundabout that it was one bundle of pure frustration to figure it out.
... And they make changes so often that existing support threads are outdated in under a week, too.
I want to like and use G+, but they're working so hard to run anyone's motivation to into the ground.
It's weird, google's design philosophy is usually to be as minimalist and as streamlined as possible, but this time they're like EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TOTALLY UNUSABLE FOREVER
I feel that way about most of what Facebook does, too.
Also, I feel like we knew this was coming for months. For the last entire YEAR Youtube has been asking me which G+ account I would eventually want to integrate with every time I log in, so I am a little puzzled that it seems to have taken everyone totally off guard.
I suspect they hoped to lower abuse by forcing everyone to put their name to the garbage that they wrote, but I agree that many people are still not comfortable using their real names online for more legit reasons, so it was kind of hamfisted. I still have faith they will fix most of these issues given time, though.
Also, I feel like we knew this was coming for months. For the last entire YEAR Youtube has been asking me which G+ account I would eventually want to integrate with every time I log in, so I am a little puzzled that it seems to have taken everyone totally off guard.
I suspect they hoped to lower abuse by forcing everyone to put their name to the garbage that they wrote, but I agree that many people are still not comfortable using their real names online for more legit reasons, so it was kind of hamfisted. I still have faith they will fix most of these issues given time, though.
The_Ross wrote:
It's weird, google's design philosophy is usually to be as minimalist and as streamlined as possible, but this time they're like EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TOTALLY UNUSABLE FOREVER
Basically this yes. I think their efforts to be developing innovative and streamlined designs makes them run too far ahead of the average person's ability to adapt to quick changes. They want to get things out fast and develop them with user feedback, but don't realize that when they change things on live features so fast and often, they're going to lose the very users they're adjusting things for.
I hope that makes sense. Google is just moving too fast for the average person, is my condensed thought.
Kim wrote:
I feel that way about most of what Facebook does, too.
Facebook makes changes regularly, but they usually bring out a version of the site that's finished and complete for a while. G+ brings out a new feature, changes it a dozen times, then changes the rest of the site to make it work with these microchanges, and it's a dozen times more confusing and difficult to keep up with than if they were to release a full site change every x months. (At least it was like that when I still used it. I'm going to guess that in the meantime it's solidified more, but this is what put me off big time.)
I feel the equivalent would be that you bring out a new widget every week, make changes to how the widget works 5 times, then change the entire editing screen to make it work better with the new widget. Can you imagine how people would deal with that? That's what G+ has felt like for me.
Sanne wrote:
Kim wrote:
I love Google+ so much. Soooo much more than facebook. I don't really understand why people dislike it at all, to me the UI is vastly superior.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
Unfortunately, a social network is pointless without people to be social with, so I've had to slink back to Facebook defeated.
The roll out on the Youtube comments was very badly handled. I'm certain they are scrambling to respond, but it's very disappointing to see in the meanwhile.
I used to love the bejeebus out of G+, BUUUUUUT:
1. If you weren't logging in every day, you missed out on a lot of changes they rolled out so often, that when you came back it was super disorientating. Eventually I got tired of just having figure out how to do something, and a couple of days later I had to figure it out all over again.
2. The social aspect was missing. I had hundreds of strangers who put me into their circles, and a handful of people I talked to, but most of my friends and family (basically all except for 2 or 3 actually) never used it. The content that got put onto G+ also never quite what I was looking for because I didn't have the right people to follow.
3. The integration into Youtube pissed me off SO MUCH. They didn't announce it properly ahead of time, it just suddenly happened, then you were forced to use your real name on G+ instead of your nickname (which I loathe doing on a place like Youtube) and when you disconnect your G+ from your Youtube, you lose all your shit. I lost all my uploaded videos, playlists, favorites, subscriptions etc.
Or so I thought. I found out that you just end up creating 2 accounts this way (one purely Youtube, one G+ integrated Youtube) and that you need to switch accounts to get your stuff back. It took me a longass time to figure this out though, and I was seething because I thought I'd lost everything. The solution was so super simple, but Google's support desk is so annoyingly unorganized and roundabout that it was one bundle of pure frustration to figure it out.
... And they make changes so often that existing support threads are outdated in under a week, too.
I want to like and use G+, but they're working so hard to run anyone's motivation to into the ground.
I still use Aregolas on my youtube account and my G+ account. You can opt out of using your real name.
Lorvilran wrote:
I still use Aregolas on my youtube account and my G+ account. You can opt out of using your real name.
You're using one name for both accounts, but you can't name yourself Lorvilran on G+ and Aregolas on Youtube when you're using G+ on Youtube. It will default to your G+ name at all times until you unlink G+.
That's the problem I have, because I'd like to be able to use my real name on G+ but I don't want that to happen with Youtube. Once you are (forced to) link the two, separating them is a real bitch that's given plenty of people a lot of headaches.
Ahhhh, hehe. I don't use my real name on G+ anyway. Anyone who would need to add me there already knows my character on here, either through knowing me here or through some other reason. 
They should get rid of the new top comment thing...
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