Okay, okay, I know the title instantly raises some red flags and eyebrows, but hear me out!
With the ability to share poems and such in forums akin to Art & Creativity but the site being PG-13(ish*) I was curious if there could be an adult section for that as well, enabling the more mature audiences here at RPR a chance to share what they are capable of to their peers.
I, in no way mean any offense and realize that this can be a double-edged sword as some may interpret this as free range to add pornography to the site. Please know that is not my intent whatsoever. I merely mean for it to be used as a way to share written shorts, or poems with adult themes (does not have to be sexual) without risking younger viewers.
Many thanks in advance for your consideration.
With the ability to share poems and such in forums akin to Art & Creativity but the site being PG-13(ish*) I was curious if there could be an adult section for that as well, enabling the more mature audiences here at RPR a chance to share what they are capable of to their peers.
I, in no way mean any offense and realize that this can be a double-edged sword as some may interpret this as free range to add pornography to the site. Please know that is not my intent whatsoever. I merely mean for it to be used as a way to share written shorts, or poems with adult themes (does not have to be sexual) without risking younger viewers.
Many thanks in advance for your consideration.
I would really love to see this one, personally. I would love a place where I could safely choose to read adult literature by other users. I don't think it would be a good idea to share a bunch of images in this, but certainly literature. There are too many beautiful works by famous authors who have adult themes.
I don't think there should be a sudden place to share pornographic images or erotica style roleplays, but adult literature none-the-less.
I don't think there should be a sudden place to share pornographic images or erotica style roleplays, but adult literature none-the-less.
Seconded! I got a warning PM for posting writing with adult themes, so I could totally use this.
Would a group restricted to 18+ years old members do the trick for this? That way, if it's labeled for mature content, you can post everything that's not inherently illegal without risking minors seeing the content.
Inherently illegal makes me pause. The kind of erotic literature I think of right off the bat would be akin to Anne Desclos' Story of O, or Sade's Justine. Justine albeit has abuse, etc in it, which in real life is considered illegal.
Forgive me for being redundant in asking for clarification, I had a seizure yesterday so my mind is, admittedly, quite foggy, so I'm just trying to understand 100% what you are getting at, Sanne.
Many thanks for your reply.
Forgive me for being redundant in asking for clarification, I had a seizure yesterday so my mind is, admittedly, quite foggy, so I'm just trying to understand 100% what you are getting at, Sanne.
Many thanks for your reply.
Demilicious wrote:
Inherently illegal makes me pause. The kind of erotic literature I think of right off the bat would be akin to Anne Desclos' Story of O, or Sade's Justine. Justine albeit has abuse, etc in it, which in real life is considered illegal.
Forgive me for being redundant in asking for clarification, I had a seizure yesterday so my mind is, admittedly, quite foggy, so I'm just trying to understand 100% what you are getting at, Sanne.
Many thanks for your reply.
Forgive me for being redundant in asking for clarification, I had a seizure yesterday so my mind is, admittedly, quite foggy, so I'm just trying to understand 100% what you are getting at, Sanne.
Many thanks for your reply.
No need to apologize! I'm sorry about your seizure, I hope you're feeling better?
I don't like saying "Anything goes in groups" because things that are illegal in real life (for example adult stuff involving (fictional) kids) still isn't allowed in groups. Stuff that is legal in real life, e.g. adult situations between adults, is okay. Same goes for literature, artwork etc. etc.. To avoid people thinking they can do illegal things in groups just because it's behind a warning, I always mention that 'as long as it isn't illegal...'. Sorry if that caused confusion!
So to clarify, a group can definitely meet your needs for sharing adult creative items, so long as those items aren't illegal online or in real life, and the group consists of adults only.
I'm going to step in from a moderator's perspective and say I'm against the idea of more boards to keep an eye on. We already have to monitor the LFRP-AO board to ensure everyone is keeping their threads clean and that there aren't any minors sneaking in by lying about their age. As a volunteer(the moderator position is volunteer work) who does a near 40-hour job in real life, I'm not super keen on the idea of having devote more time sniffing out those problems in other parts of the forum.
I don't know if the sentiment is shared amongst the team, and I'm not going to speak for my fellow moderators; I'm only speaking as one moderator, me, knowing what we do on a weekly basis. I'd rather folks keep their more adult persuits to private groups.
I don't know if the sentiment is shared amongst the team, and I'm not going to speak for my fellow moderators; I'm only speaking as one moderator, me, knowing what we do on a weekly basis. I'd rather folks keep their more adult persuits to private groups.
Copper_Dragon wrote:
I'm going to step in from a moderator's perspective and say I'm against the idea of more boards to keep an eye on. We already have to monitor the LFRP-AO board to ensure everyone is keeping their threads clean and that there aren't any minors sneaking in by lying about their age. As a volunteer(the moderator position is volunteer work) who does a near 40-hour job in real life, I'm not super keen on the idea of having devote more time sniffing out those problems in other parts of the forum.
I don't know if the sentiment is shared amongst the team, and I'm not going to speak for my fellow moderators; I'm only speaking as one moderator, me, knowing what we do on a weekly basis. I'd rather folks keep their more adult pursuits to private groups.
I don't know if the sentiment is shared amongst the team, and I'm not going to speak for my fellow moderators; I'm only speaking as one moderator, me, knowing what we do on a weekly basis. I'd rather folks keep their more adult pursuits to private groups.
You have a fair point. I can only imagine how much work it is to keep everything organised, and as it should be. Albeit, I also see what a large and helpful community is here, and understand that regular writers such as myself can report and/or flag posts to help moderators such as yourself. It is a group effort, although, again, the majority of the work falls on your hands, as well as other moderators. I did however assume that no moderators were paid, as I have never come across any to be paid for their help when it comes to the roleplaying world.
With Sanne's suggestion, I am figuring that an adult orientated group for sharing such a thing would be best, and I appreciate everyone's input.
As for my seizures, Sanne, they happen about 1-2 times a month. It is simply a question of time as well as 'going through the ropes'. No need for concern.
My thanks as well for clarifying, I truly appreciate it.
Demilicious wrote:
You have a fair point. I can only imagine how much work it is to keep everything organised, and as it should be. Albeit, I also see what a large and helpful community is here, and understand that regular writers such as myself can report and/or flag posts to help moderators such as yourself. It is a group effort, although, again, the majority of the work falls on your hands, as well as other moderators. I did however assume that no moderators were paid, as I have never come across any to be paid for their help when it comes to the roleplaying world.
With Sanne's suggestion, I am figuring that an adult orientated group for sharing such a thing would be best, and I appreciate everyone's input.
As for my seizures, Sanne, they happen about 1-2 times a month. It is simply a question of time as well as 'going through the ropes'. NO need to for concern. My thanks as well for clarifying, I truly appreciate it.
With Sanne's suggestion, I am figuring that an adult orientated group for sharing such a thing would be best, and I appreciate everyone's input.
As for my seizures, Sanne, they happen about 1-2 times a month. It is simply a question of time as well as 'going through the ropes'. NO need to for concern.
My thanks as well for clarifying, I truly appreciate it.I'm glad to have been of help! If you have any questions about groups, you can check out the Help database or post in the Help forum.
I think Copper meant that she has a full time job and does moderating on the side. RPR mods are volunteers and indeed don't get paid. That makes it extra challenging sometimes.
I can say definitively that we will not be adding more AO boards. Even the existing AO board doesn't actually have different rating guidelines than the other public boards. From the AO's rules of this forum sticky post:
Yes, we do give as much leniency as we can and play with the grey area when enforcing on the AO board, but it's truly just there to help cut down on the danger of accidentally doing something illegal (such as RPing erotica with a minor.) That was the entirety of its intended purpose. A virtual increase in rating allowance (due to enforcement, not rule change) was a side-effect and a constant source of tension.
One of the #1 reasons groups were added to the site was to give people ways to more widely share more adult-oriented content, while keeping the risks of accidental exposure and increase in moderator burden quite low.
Just to clarify: writing erotica involving underage characters in sexual situations is legal in most locales. Creating fiction about other illegal activities (doing drugs, murdering someone) is also legal. The RPR just happens to have a specific rule against using underaged characters in sexual situations, much like being cruel is also legal but not allowed on the RPR.
When I mention not using groups to do illegal things, we're more talking about not planning RL heists or selling government secrets through them.
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The rating guidelines are still in effect here.
By and large, our stance is that so long as everyone is having fun, then everything is excellent. The RPR has no policy against playing smutty or extreme content, whether it is plot-rich or no, so long as the following guidelines are followed:
You should continue to think of the "Looking For RP - Adults Only" forum as being part of the public areas of the site, and is therefore rated PG13-ish. Yes, you can mention "yaoi" or "erotica" or even the less flowery term "sex". But if you want to get in-depth and graphic about what you're looking for... sorry, but too bad!
The "Looking For RP - Adults Only" forum is being provided to help adults who feel safer not RPing with minors, for ANY reason, have that much more confidence that they are addressing other adults. This is especially important since many members choose to hide their age/birthday on their profile. But we are not seeking to create an X-rated red light district on a semi-public forum.
By and large, our stance is that so long as everyone is having fun, then everything is excellent. The RPR has no policy against playing smutty or extreme content, whether it is plot-rich or no, so long as the following guidelines are followed:
- The characters being used are not underaged.
- We expect all members to take every reasonable action to ensure they are keeping their use of the site legal and safe for everyone. For example, if a scene or plot may contain sexual themes, all players should take the time to make sure their RP partners are of legal age.
- You should make certain that everyone is OOCly comfortable with writing/reading your smutty (or scary) content (Some useful phrases: "Are you comfortable playing this out, or would you prefer to fade to black?" "Are you feeling okay with the direction this RP is going? Do you want to keep going, or should we steer the plot back to calmer ground?" "Remember, if the RP ever makes you uncomfortable, please tell me. I promise I will not be upset!")
- Content that exceeds the PG-13ish rating of the public portions of the site need to be taken to private messages, into a properly marked group, or even off site.
You should continue to think of the "Looking For RP - Adults Only" forum as being part of the public areas of the site, and is therefore rated PG13-ish. Yes, you can mention "yaoi" or "erotica" or even the less flowery term "sex". But if you want to get in-depth and graphic about what you're looking for... sorry, but too bad!
The "Looking For RP - Adults Only" forum is being provided to help adults who feel safer not RPing with minors, for ANY reason, have that much more confidence that they are addressing other adults. This is especially important since many members choose to hide their age/birthday on their profile. But we are not seeking to create an X-rated red light district on a semi-public forum.
Yes, we do give as much leniency as we can and play with the grey area when enforcing on the AO board, but it's truly just there to help cut down on the danger of accidentally doing something illegal (such as RPing erotica with a minor.) That was the entirety of its intended purpose. A virtual increase in rating allowance (due to enforcement, not rule change) was a side-effect and a constant source of tension.
One of the #1 reasons groups were added to the site was to give people ways to more widely share more adult-oriented content, while keeping the risks of accidental exposure and increase in moderator burden quite low.
Sanne wrote:
I don't like saying "Anything goes in groups" because things that are illegal in real life (for example adult stuff involving (fictional) kids) still isn't allowed in groups.
Just to clarify: writing erotica involving underage characters in sexual situations is legal in most locales. Creating fiction about other illegal activities (doing drugs, murdering someone) is also legal. The RPR just happens to have a specific rule against using underaged characters in sexual situations, much like being cruel is also legal but not allowed on the RPR.
When I mention not using groups to do illegal things, we're more talking about not planning RL heists or selling government secrets through them.
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