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Thekaleidoscope wrote:
JohnAtArms wrote:
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
Okay this took me a while to write up, so I hope you enjoy it. I'm gonna share it as a link to my google docs, as its way too much info to put in a single textbox here. Any suggestions for tweaks are welcome as well as significant individuals inside this race.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DFC-cAe4U0YtGz7OQyUBRn-16n3g6bLPn0hKjrLf5ls/edit?usp=sharing

Noice! I was actually thinking that the ‘Progenitors’ were a Coalition affiliated research and expeditionary vessel sent into the Boötes Void and onto the Stratori homeworld. Say... they could also borrow some Russian words in accordance with their discovery of the Muscovy data logs? And since I’d like to include a bit more of the Boötes Void in the canon, perhaps their homeworld is in a much smaller galaxy in the Void?

Hmmm, I'd envisioned a far different race for the 'Progenitors' since if the Coalition is the species which uplifted them then it partly takes away from their slowly sneaking into Coalition space and attacking minor settlements in mostly unguarded space.

From your lore I'm also unsure if the Coalition used the sort of warpdrives that the Stratori is using which is pretty decisive to their minor spread out into the galaxy

Woah... I just realised something... SolarLoki is actually making a forerunner-esque race for this universe and it could be beneficial to discuss some lore bits with him in order to expand! It'd make sense, I'd imagine, for SolarLoki's race to have a connection with your own.

So yeah, I think we should scrap the Coalition idea of them being the Progenitors (the Coalition doesn't exist anymore, it's only New Hispania and the Orion Confederacy), and no, warpdrives and slipspace technology of the like doesn't exist yet in Orion Space. Thing is though, it could be introduced at a later date? Anyway, I'd recommend talking to SolarLoki about your Progenitors if he's interested.

edit: They also don't have to be a part of the Milky Way. Like I said before, they could come from a galaxy in the Boötes Void, which could give you a bit more freedom in how you'd like to handle your culture! Tbh, I think I'm restricting a lot of technological advancements in Orion Space, but again, you could make it so that they're from a galaxy in the Void.
I do have a few personal ideas for that, however, I might bring it up with Solar.

One thing we can talk about is the human interaction with the Statori.
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
I do have a few personal ideas for that, however, I might bring it up with Solar.

One thing we can talk about is the human interaction with the Statori.

Sure! I guess the important thing to consider is the location of your species. But since I'd imagine they'd have a form of lightspeed-esque travel I could imagine their travelling into Orion Space wouldn't be unheard of. Since the Confederacy is based on a union between humans and alien species, would you think splinter factions of the current colon(ies?) surface and attempt negotiations with Confederate officials?
Its possible that some might splinter off and leave the Enlightened Colony, but the chances that they would be able to make it to Confederate space is low since the only travel point is through their current single great warpstation. It opens a portal to the sector within its reach and can close and reopen at will afterwards. Meaning all jumps out can be traced and routes into what is for the EC considered hostile inferior xenos space are strictly research and collection expeditions currently.

I envision them being closer to New Hispania, or any areas of the Confederation in which lawlessness is particularly rampant. Allowing relative ease to sneak in.
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
I do have a few personal ideas for that, however, I might bring it up with Solar.

One thing we can talk about is the human interaction with the Statori.

I'm all ears then! Sorry for taking a while to get back. I was having a nostalgia trip on Pokémon Silver kek
SolarLoki wrote:
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
I do have a few personal ideas for that, however, I might bring it up with Solar.

One thing we can talk about is the human interaction with the Statori.

I'm all ears then! Sorry for taking a while to get back. I was having a nostalgia trip on Pokémon Silver kek

Okay, have you read the information for the Statori? Because that contains the information which I have so far in their knowledge of the progenitors
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
Its possible that some might splinter off and leave the Enlightened Colony, but the chances that they would be able to make it to Confederate space is low since the only travel point is through their current single great warpstation. It opens a portal to the sector within its reach and can close and reopen at will afterwards. Meaning all jumps out can be traced and routes into what is for the EC considered hostile inferior xenos space are strictly research and collection expeditions currently.

I envision them being closer to New Hispania, or any areas of the Confederation in which lawlessness is particularly rampant. Allowing relative ease to sneak in.

We could even include an even more lawless territory in New Hispania called 'Wild Space' which is similar in relations to Indian Territory in the Wild West in that it was the worst it got in terms of lawlessness. Maybe we could include indigenous species of the newly colonised New Hispanian territories to be relocated in Wild Space if anyone is willing to step in on that. Could be a good breeding ground for Statori criminal activity or the like.
Yes I have. Funny thing is, my forerunner type race is called the Primogenitors. Great minds think alike.
JohnAtArms wrote:
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
Its possible that some might splinter off and leave the Enlightened Colony, but the chances that they would be able to make it to Confederate space is low since the only travel point is through their current single great warpstation. It opens a portal to the sector within its reach and can close and reopen at will afterwards. Meaning all jumps out can be traced and routes into what is for the EC considered hostile inferior xenos space are strictly research and collection expeditions currently.

I envision them being closer to New Hispania, or any areas of the Confederation in which lawlessness is particularly rampant. Allowing relative ease to sneak in.

We could even include an even more lawless territory in New Hispania called 'Wild Space' which is similar in relations to Indian Territory in the Wild West in that it was the worst it got in terms of lawlessness. Maybe we could include indigenous species of the newly colonised New Hispanian territories to be relocated in Wild Space if anyone is willing to step in on that. Could be a good breeding ground for Statori criminal activity or the like.

I like the sound of that, lots of different species for the Statori to kidnap and study, maybe even stories begin to be formed around these strange tentacled ships which appear and wrap around ships before stealing them away?
SolarLoki wrote:
Yes I have. Funny thing is, my forerunner type race is called the Primogenitors. Great minds think alike.

Okay, do they or would they in anyway behave like the progenitors mentioned for the Statori? Or use the same sort of wormhole stations that the Statori have co-opted?
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
JohnAtArms wrote:
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
Its possible that some might splinter off and leave the Enlightened Colony, but the chances that they would be able to make it to Confederate space is low since the only travel point is through their current single great warpstation. It opens a portal to the sector within its reach and can close and reopen at will afterwards. Meaning all jumps out can be traced and routes into what is for the EC considered hostile inferior xenos space are strictly research and collection expeditions currently.

I envision them being closer to New Hispania, or any areas of the Confederation in which lawlessness is particularly rampant. Allowing relative ease to sneak in.

We could even include an even more lawless territory in New Hispania called 'Wild Space' which is similar in relations to Indian Territory in the Wild West in that it was the worst it got in terms of lawlessness. Maybe we could include indigenous species of the newly colonised New Hispanian territories to be relocated in Wild Space if anyone is willing to step in on that. Could be a good breeding ground for Statori criminal activity or the like.

I like the sound of that, lots of different species for the Statori to kidnap and study, maybe even stories begin to be formed around these strange tentacled ships which appear and wrap around ships before stealing them away?

Sounds good to me! I'll let you two discuss your ideas further. Imma gonna see The Last Jedi with a friend now. Toodles! <3
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
SolarLoki wrote:
Yes I have. Funny thing is, my forerunner type race is called the Primogenitors. Great minds think alike.

Okay, do they or would they in anyway behave like the progenitors mentioned for the Statori? Or use the same sort of wormhole stations that the Statori have co-opted?

Their's is an interesting society. They were probably one of the most common species of living thing found within their galaxy. What used to be in the Milky Way before what they call the "Immortality Extinction"(more on that later) was a simple colonization group which consisted of about 12 million at their highest point in their civilization. Their warp technology was incredibly crude and simplistic, offering only one way travel at the cost of about the energy of a supernova to transport the group of about 1000 to the Milky Way(they actually did use a supernova to power it.) The Primogenitors specialized more in genetic modification and things involving the brain.
I'm heading off to sleep very soon so I'll do discussions mostly when I wake up, but just as a question for you to answer when you get back, I'm planning on adding more than just the Stratori, that okay?

Like two splinter nations of the same species, one focused on genetic mutations and the other on robotics to defend their weak true form. (one friendly and one hostile depending on who is met first, the first bits of info on them are on the same doc too, called the Tri-Abol)
SolarLoki wrote:
Thekaleidoscope wrote:
SolarLoki wrote:
Yes I have. Funny thing is, my forerunner type race is called the Primogenitors. Great minds think alike.

Okay, do they or would they in anyway behave like the progenitors mentioned for the Statori? Or use the same sort of wormhole stations that the Statori have co-opted?

Their's is an interesting society. They were probably one of the most common species of living thing found within their galaxy. What used to be in the Milky Way before what they call the "Immortality Extinction"(more on that later) was a simple colonization group which consisted of about 12 million at their highest point in their civilization. Their warp technology was incredibly crude and simplistic, offering only one way travel at the cost of about the energy of a supernova to transport the group of about 1000 to the Milky Way(they actually did use a supernova to power it.) The Primogenitors specialized more in genetic modification and things involving the brain.

Hmm, actually they sound more like a race which the Tri-Abol would have co-opted technology from, (the tri-abol are another of my races which are very much into their genetic mutations to bolster their increadibly weak physical body)

Could we move this to PMs cause I'm begining to get a big idea here and don't want to cluster up the main chat.
DM's it is.
So the basis of my species (the Izagame) is that they are a bio-mechanical in nature species from a rather extreme (think Australia or tachanka from Mass Effect) world that is just outside the boundary of Orion Space, with a few colony worlds just inside the boundary.

While originally a wholly organic species, the Izagame went through their equivalent of transhumanism with the end results coincidentally being fairly close to a lot of human horror scifi monsters. Despite their appearances, they are typically peaceful to other sentient life.

Secondary Bodies

Miscommunication and other factors during first human contact resulted in violence which continued for several months. After these experiences the species used their technology to developed mentally linked 'secondary' bodies as a form of a 'friendly' face to communicate with peacefully. These bodies are in many ways equivalent to human drones and are also bio-mechanical in nature. Normally one body is active at a time while the other is in a semi dormant 'sleep'. It is possible for both to move at the same time but at greatly reduced ability and higher mental strain.

While generally human in appearance, these bodies always appear 'off' in some way (uncanny valley)
For an example of the 'off' qualities human bodies have, Tula's own has bright red irises and its overall appearance is like her main body, longer limbs and with an angular face.

Role in Society

Due to their primary bodies overall adaptability and ability to fair well in hazardous environments, the Izagame have more or less taken over the mining industry (and many other typically hazardous environment careers) inside Orion Space, pushing many humans from their jobs. To a lesser degree, the have integrated themselves into various naval industries such as ship breaking and construction.

While rare some have been employed as vip bodyguards, using their imposing appearance as a form of deterrent

They have a rather small voice in the Confederate political system due to the majority of the species living outside of human space.

The whole of the Izagame is politically refereed to as the Heran Corrective or simply the 'Corrective', named so after their home world which translates into human English as 'Hera'. Corrective comes from the Izagame's ever continued work to correct their own flaws.
Tula Ramanegan wrote:
So the basis of my species (the Izagame) is that they are a bio-mechanical in nature species from a rather extreme (think Australia or tachanka from Mass Effect) world that is just outside the boundary of Orion Space, with a few colony worlds just inside the boundary.

While originally a wholly organic species, the Izagame went through their equivalent of transhumanism with the end results coincidentally being fairly close to a lot of human horror scifi monsters. Despite their appearances, they are typically peaceful to other sentient life.

Secondary Bodies

Miscommunication and other factors during first human contact resulted in violence which continued for several months. After these experiences the species used their technology to developed mentally linked 'secondary' bodies as a form of a 'friendly' face to communicate with peacefully. These bodies are in many ways equivalent to human drones and are also bio-mechanical in nature. Normally one body is active at a time while the other is in a semi dormant 'sleep'. It is possible for both to move at the same time but at greatly reduced ability and higher mental strain.

While generally human in appearance, these bodies always appear 'off' in some way (uncanny valley)
For an example of the 'off' qualities human bodies have, Tula's own has bright red irises and its overall appearance is like her main body, longer limbs and with an angular face.

Role in Society

Due to their primary bodies overall adaptability and ability to fair well in hazardous environments, the Izagame have more or less taken over the mining industry (and many other typically hazardous environment careers) inside Orion Space, pushing many humans from their jobs. To a lesser degree, the have integrated themselves into various naval industries such as ship breaking and construction.

While rare some have been employed as vip bodyguards, using their imposing appearance as a form of deterrent

They have a rather small voice in the Confederate political system due to the majority of the species living outside of human space.

The whole of the Izagame is politically refereed to as the Heran Corrective or simply the 'Corrective', named so after their home world which translates into human English as 'Hera'. Corrective comes from the Izagame's ever continued work to correct their own flaws.

Lol, as an Australian, it isn't that bad XD

I'm gonna try make a political party (or you can, if you wish) to better represent the Izagame in the Outer Crescent Sectors (which I'd imagine their employment's most sought after) and I'll try my best in adding this species into the current backstory. What time would you say is best for the Izagame to come in? My limit is essentially from the 24th century, all the way to the mid 26th century.
JohnAtArms wrote:
Tula Ramanegan wrote:
So the basis of my species (the Izagame) is that they are a bio-mechanical in nature species from a rather extreme (think Australia or tachanka from Mass Effect) world that is just outside the boundary of Orion Space, with a few colony worlds just inside the boundary.

While originally a wholly organic species, the Izagame went through their equivalent of transhumanism with the end results coincidentally being fairly close to a lot of human horror scifi monsters. Despite their appearances, they are typically peaceful to other sentient life.

Secondary Bodies

Miscommunication and other factors during first human contact resulted in violence which continued for several months. After these experiences the species used their technology to developed mentally linked 'secondary' bodies as a form of a 'friendly' face to communicate with peacefully. These bodies are in many ways equivalent to human drones and are also bio-mechanical in nature. Normally one body is active at a time while the other is in a semi dormant 'sleep'. It is possible for both to move at the same time but at greatly reduced ability and higher mental strain.

While generally human in appearance, these bodies always appear 'off' in some way (uncanny valley)
For an example of the 'off' qualities human bodies have, Tula's own has bright red irises and its overall appearance is like her main body, longer limbs and with an angular face.

Role in Society

Due to their primary bodies overall adaptability and ability to fair well in hazardous environments, the Izagame have more or less taken over the mining industry (and many other typically hazardous environment careers) inside Orion Space, pushing many humans from their jobs. To a lesser degree, the have integrated themselves into various naval industries such as ship breaking and construction.

While rare some have been employed as vip bodyguards, using their imposing appearance as a form of deterrent

They have a rather small voice in the Confederate political system due to the majority of the species living outside of human space.

The whole of the Izagame is politically refereed to as the Heran Corrective or simply the 'Corrective', named so after their home world which translates into human English as 'Hera'. Corrective comes from the Izagame's ever continued work to correct their own flaws.

Lol, as an Australian, it isn't that bad XD

I'm gonna try make a political party (or you can, if you wish) to better represent the Izagame in the Outer Crescent Sectors (which I'd imagine their employment's most sought after) and I'll try my best in adding this species into the current backstory. What time would you say is best for the Izagame to come in? My limit is essentially from the 24th century, all the way to the mid 26th century.

To be fair, you guys Do have a very large number of deadly animals there...and giant spiders. xD

I've seen you political parties before and they are astounding. I would say around early 26th century for era wise.
Tula Ramanegan wrote:
JohnAtArms wrote:
Tula Ramanegan wrote:
So the basis of my species (the Izagame) is that they are a bio-mechanical in nature species from a rather extreme (think Australia or tachanka from Mass Effect) world that is just outside the boundary of Orion Space, with a few colony worlds just inside the boundary.

While originally a wholly organic species, the Izagame went through their equivalent of transhumanism with the end results coincidentally being fairly close to a lot of human horror scifi monsters. Despite their appearances, they are typically peaceful to other sentient life.

Secondary Bodies

Miscommunication and other factors during first human contact resulted in violence which continued for several months. After these experiences the species used their technology to developed mentally linked 'secondary' bodies as a form of a 'friendly' face to communicate with peacefully. These bodies are in many ways equivalent to human drones and are also bio-mechanical in nature. Normally one body is active at a time while the other is in a semi dormant 'sleep'. It is possible for both to move at the same time but at greatly reduced ability and higher mental strain.

While generally human in appearance, these bodies always appear 'off' in some way (uncanny valley)
For an example of the 'off' qualities human bodies have, Tula's own has bright red irises and its overall appearance is like her main body, longer limbs and with an angular face.

Role in Society

Due to their primary bodies overall adaptability and ability to fair well in hazardous environments, the Izagame have more or less taken over the mining industry (and many other typically hazardous environment careers) inside Orion Space, pushing many humans from their jobs. To a lesser degree, the have integrated themselves into various naval industries such as ship breaking and construction.

While rare some have been employed as vip bodyguards, using their imposing appearance as a form of deterrent

They have a rather small voice in the Confederate political system due to the majority of the species living outside of human space.

The whole of the Izagame is politically refereed to as the Heran Corrective or simply the 'Corrective', named so after their home world which translates into human English as 'Hera'. Corrective comes from the Izagame's ever continued work to correct their own flaws.

Lol, as an Australian, it isn't that bad XD

I'm gonna try make a political party (or you can, if you wish) to better represent the Izagame in the Outer Crescent Sectors (which I'd imagine their employment's most sought after) and I'll try my best in adding this species into the current backstory. What time would you say is best for the Izagame to come in? My limit is essentially from the 24th century, all the way to the mid 26th century.

To be fair, you guys Do have a very large number of deadly animals there...and giant spiders. xD

I've seen you political parties before and they are astounding. I would say around early 26th century for era wise.

Ha ha, well, I live in the coldest and smallest state of Australia, so I don't really get to see a lot of dangerous animals and giant spiders XD

Aaaaw thanks! I am planning on expanding on them more as time goes on, but for now, what they are will do. And mkay! I'll try and include their historical role when I get back from work! <3
I've updated my species list with two more fleshed out species: the Revenants and the Tri-Abol and with them three potential factions.