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With more knowledge having come to light about the First Magisters, the origin of darkspawn, Fen'harel, the Eluvians and the Evanuris. Some start to believe that the Seven Evanuris banished by Fen'harel may be the Old Gods, The Forgotten Ones. Cast out, would they have reached out to First Magisters to teach them blood magic and extract their vengeance? Why does the Dread Wolf not wish the Grey Wardens to find and kill the last of the remaining Old Gods?

Now that the Inquisition has been formally disbanded and there are rumours that the southern Wardens have severed ties with their leaders at Weisshaupt; a small group comprised of various individuals seeking more knowledge about thousand year myths band together to try to find answers which may lead them to hidden and long abandoned places.
There should be two Old Gods left. That possibly means two more blights.

Also, I like this quote;

'When the Gods were sealed away in the Beyond, the Forgotten ones were sealed away in the Abyss. To The Dalish, they were the evil beings in opposition to the Gods greatness. Seeing as how we now know the elven Gods were actually malevolent enslavers, the lore surrounding the Forgotten ones may be incorrect, and we might see them in Dragon Age 4 as allies.'
Yes, and Solas doesn't seem to want to see them killed. Why, especially if he banished them?

That is an excellent quote and that could be very interesting in the next Dragon Age. New factions are going to make their appearance, but the Grey Wardens will also be important.

I don't want to do a story that will be lore breaking, so I'm going to collect as much information as possible.
The Old Gods

The Tevinters worshipped seven Old Gods. The first—and the leader of the others—was called Dumat, the Dragon of Silence.

Dumat, the Dragon of Silence and the archdemon of the First Blight
Zazikel, the Dragon of Chaos and the archdemon of the Second Blight
Toth, the Dragon of Fire and the archdemon of the Third Blight
Andoral, the Dragon of Slaves and the archdemon of the Fourth Blight
Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty and the archdemon of the Fifth Blight
Razikale, the Dragon of Mystery
Lusacan, the Dragon of Night

A Chantry scholar conjectured that there might have been an unknown eighth Old God represented by constellation "Draconis" that was stricken from historical record.

Astronomy, Astrarium, Collections
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Called "High Dragon" in common parlance, the constellation Draconis is always depicted by a dragon in flight. Recently, it has come into question whether this was the case in the ancient Imperium. Most Tevinter dragon imagery was reserved for the Old Gods, so why would they dedicate a constellation to dragons in general when specific dragons were held in such reverence? This speculation is fueled by older drawings showing Draconis as more serpentine in appearance, perhaps depicting a sea creature or an unknown eighth Old God that was stricken from historical record.

—From A Study of Thedosian Astronomy by Sister Oran Petrarchius

*All Lore is from Dragon Age and belongs to Bioware.*
"I like how a Grey Warden informs me of my own people's history. You lead, I'll follow. If of course, you turn a blind eye to some of my...well, I don't think I need to explain too much." :)

A little treat. :)

"Yes, I'm aware, of you know what, and have knowledge of it, though I've never chosen to use it. My Order has shown a certain tolerance to it, though it should always be approached with caution, as all magic should, but I'm sure you already know this." :)
"Don't worry. I won't be attracting any demons unless you want me to."

Should I keep to the lore magic? I have been developing other Blood Magic related spells with the Creation Engine, few are over-powered and should only be used in desperation, even then it would be too much of a sacrifice.
"I think it would be wiser to stay away from those. Demons always seem to find a way out of the Fade more easily than they should!"

No, I think new magic could and should be introduced. I'll have her spec as battlemage and stick to more of the D.A. Awakening magic, but please feel free to develop other magic lore. It will make it more interesting as new schools of magic were shown to emerge in Inquisition. :)
The Forgotten Ones

The Forgotten Ones are a mysterious group of elven gods and are a maligned aspect of the ancient Elven pantheon. Fen'Harel was said to have tricked both sets of gods: locking the Forgotten Ones away from the world in their realm of the abyss, and shutting the Creators away in their realm of the heavens. According to popular belief, not even the Dalish properly remember the Forgotten Ones since then, outside of their dreams.

Legend suggests the Forgotten Ones were many, but even the names of most of them have been largely lost to time, making their title exceedingly appropriate. Some fragments of lore do remain, however, as do intimations of their intentions.

the Forgotten Ones are a dark mirror presiding over the worst aspects of existence: disease, terror, spite and malevolence. They serve not as shepherds of the elves, but rather as figures of fear and dread.

According to the legend of the Dread Wolf's betrayal of both camps of elven gods during the fall of Arlathan, the Forgotten Ones were easily swayed by his proclaimed plan to organize a truce by which the Creators would be defeated and, by consequence, the elves would be left alone and unaided. An alternate version of this tale has both camps of gods seeking out a weapon in their respective realms that Fen'Harel promised would bring their war to an end.

The Forgotten Ones had resided in a place known as the "Void," where no mortal nor god could have remained in. They may have greatly resented the Creator gods, and in fact asserted that there are no "gods" and that the right of dominance over others comes from deeds rather than nature

Priests of the Forgotten Ones were persecuted during the time of the elven Dales. Yet secret worship of these gods continues. It is said that some souls, seeking revenge against humans for their affronts to the elven people, have sought the Forgotten Ones out through hidden, dark cults. According to the Dalish, these individuals have committed a great crime and forsaken their people in return for the keys to a twisted and terrible strength.

Members of one such cult on the western fringes of Orlais, in the Tirashan forest, wore brilliant crimson vallaslin. Unlike the Dalish, who invoke the names of their gods in battle for aid, they were offering their enemies as a sacrifice.

Anaris – according to an old tale, he was once tricked by Fen'Harel while dueling the Great Hunter Andruil
Daern'thal
Fen'Harel – arguably, as he was known to both sets of elven gods
Geldauran

Note:

The Seekers of Truth in Kirkwall secretly created the Band of Three to investigate, among other things, whether the Forgotten Ones in elven lore are connected to the Forbidden Ones in other works. The note left by the last surviving member of the team calls Xebenkeck, one of the Forbidden Ones, "the Forgotten One, or demon or whatever it is" and urges to destroy him.
A secret greeting from those Fen'Harel trusted contains the phrase "Revas vir-anaris". It's unclear whether "anaris" is supposed to be a reference to Anaris of the Forgotten Ones, or if it's a common noun in this context.


*OOC Note -All known lore used here are for story purposes. The Lore is from Dragon Age and belongs to Bioware.*
Are you looking for a certain number of characters?
I was thinking between four to six PCs including Amyka and I'm mostly likely going to give her a mabari. Also a balanced party with rogues and warriors would be important. All existing races; human, dwarves, elves and qunari would be welcomed. With NPCs being added that will be more than enough to manage. If other people are interested in DMing other such searches of tomes, codexes or artifacts for the group that could be fun to have rotating DMs. :)

Also I think I found the first book to try and acquire for the group. It doesn't need to be lore breaking since the idea is to try to acquire the text only:

What I remember most is its tongue flapping against a row of spiky teeth. I'd heard emissaries possessed the ability to speak, but the words were unnatural. They twisted and lurched as they left the creature's mouth, accompanied with a spray of saliva.

"Have you ever experienced living flesh ground between your teeth?" it asked Mila before biting through her throat.

My ankle was broken from the battle, but I dragged myself away. The pain I felt would be nothing compared to what the emissary would do to me. Rycus stayed behind. I never knew if he was covering my escape, trying to save Myla, or had simply given up. I sensed a surge of dark magic, then heard his cry and a thud. I didn't look back, just crawled as fast as I could. When I reached the surface, the back of my boots were splattered with blood.

—An excerpt from The Blighted Codex, a classified collection of studies on the darkspawn, held safely in the Imperial Library in Minrathous, available only to members of the Magisterium
Copied from the Dragon Age Fandom.

The First Sin.

The Chantry teaches that after the Maker created His firstborn, He "called forth a city with towers of gold, streets with music for cobblestones, and banners which flew without wind". It was a perfect, holy citadel where He dwelled on His golden throne, and spirits populated its many spires. The Maker's mortal children entered the city when they died, returning to His side. When His secondborn started to worship the Old Gods and thus committed the Original Sin, the Maker abandoned the Golden City and His ungrateful creations, and it sat locked and empty.

Dissatisfied with spirits, the Maker expelled them from the Golden City, but there are conflicting accounts on the timing of this event: before the creation of men, directly after that ("sealed the gates") or when He left the city.

Some accounts suggest that the Old Gods began whispering to humanity from the Golden City in -2800 Ancient, three hundred years after the arrival of humans in Thedas. People of ancient Tevinter believed the Creator had abandoned the city long before that and they were adrift, rescued by the Old Gods.

Elves believe that their gods have been trapped in the Eternal City at the heart of the Beyond[10] and that Fen'Harel still roams the Beyond, keeping watch over the gods lest they escape from their prisons.

The Saga of Tyrdda Bright-Axe mentions the Golden City as a place filled with treasure. An Alamarri leader, Thelm Gold-Handed, tried to forge an alliance with Tyrdda's tribe and cross the Waking Sea in order to reach the Golden City. Tyrdda refused Thelm's offer, stating that his dreams were made of lies. Thelm was killed in the ensuing duel with Tyrdda.


Interesting. But this prompts more questions.

The Second Sin.

The Chantry holds that in -395 Ancient seven Magisters Sidereal, each a High Priest to one of the Old Gods, physically entered the Golden City. They did so at the behest of their gods to open "the unreachable gate" in exchange for "power and glory beyond all reckoning". Reputedly the spell required two-thirds of the lyrium in the Tevinter Imperium as well as the blood of several hundred slaves. But instead of the dragons the mages found the Maker himself upon the throne of heaven. The City turned black and the magisters were cast out as the first darkspawn, inadvertently causing the First Blight.

While the Orlesian Chantry insists that a flaw inherent to human nature led to mankind's corruption, Tevinter authors lay the blame squarely on the Old Gods. They also claim that the darkspawn always existed, and that the Blight and magisters are not even related.


Religious beliefs may differ, but many stem from the same seed. However, gods do not write their own history or their existence. That task is down to man, dwarf or elf, and they have their flaws.

Magisters Sidereal are the seven ancient members of the Magisterium, each a high priest to the Old Gods, who breached the Fade physically and entered the Golden City in -395 Ancient. According to the Orlesian Chantry, through their actions they committed the Second Sin and caused the First Blight, releasing darkspawn upon Thedas.

The seven Magisters often plotted against their enemies, as well as one another, and to protect themselves, they used titles rather than their real names. Most, if not all, records of "The Seven" have been destroyed, including their names. The power of The Conductor and The Architect were, however, still no match against the Golden City, so they approached the remaining five of the Sidereal: the Watchman of Lusacan, the Forgewright of Toth, the Appraiser of Andoral, the Augur of Razikale, and the Madman of Zazikel. All of them craved the power of which Corypheus spoke, and so after seeking counsel with each of their chosen deity, they united under the pretense of helping Corypheus, but in reality, each wanted all the power for themselves.


This information will intrigue Magella. We know of only two, The Conductor and The Architect. Magella may try to discover who the others were, entertained by the idea that perhaps one was a distant relative.
One being a distant relative of Magella may be a bit of a scary thought to his companions. LOL :)

This is interesting:
The Second Sin.

The Chantry holds that in -395 Ancient seven Magisters Sidereal, each a High Priest to one of the Old Gods, physically entered the Golden City. They did so at the behest of their gods to open "the unreachable gate" in exchange for "power and glory beyond all reckoning". Reputedly the spell required two-thirds of the lyrium in the Tevinter Imperium as well as the blood of several hundred slaves. But instead of the dragons the mages found the Maker himself upon the throne of heaven. The City turned black and the magisters were cast out as the first darkspawn, inadvertently causing the First Blight.


Magisters Sidereal/Corypheus tellls the Inquisitor that the City was already black and empty. So according to him already corrupted.

There is also the idea of lyrium and the corrupted red lyrium. Was lyrium corrupted by fade breaches?
It might be a designer flaw, but I always found the fade trendils in the waking world and darkspawn taint in the world to be similar.
Red Lyrium was in existence long before the breaches, as there was an idol found in the Deep Roads. Dragon Age 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDGNUF0xRak
I'm watching it now.

The thaig with the Red Lyrium Idol pre-dates all other known dwarven thaigs and Tenvinter, but we know from the first game with the Dalish origin that elven statues, especially of Mythal pre-dates all this and eluvians were placed in the deep roads.

Edit: Mentions from Anders (if reliable) that the small shard of the red lyrium has weakened the veil and the "Idol seems more powerful when broken".

Edit 2: The statue of Meredith as red lyrium is in Gallows? Not sure. It's mentioned in Tevinter Nights.
*Reading, eating mini sausage rolls*

The elves of the Tirashan. I fancy playing one. :)
We'd be happy to have you along if you want to RP an elf of Tirashan. :)

I think it would be important for those who joined to have knowledge of Dragon Age and the lore, though they wouldn't need to be experts. I don't consider myself one.

Edit: I had forgotten about that. Red lyrium is organic and can be grown. It can be grown on people and harvested from them. *Shudders!*
Just making a little observation.

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Gevi did it! he placed the weird statue!
BayLeafBard wrote:
Just making a little observation.

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Gevi did it! he placed the weird statue!

*Shudders* the Claw of Dumat statues! That's now in the Hall of Mirrors!?! O.o >.>
"Compliments the decor."

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